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Tweets from banking whistleblower Jonathan Sugarman and Presidential hopeful Gemma O’Doherty last night.

Presidential hopeful ‘stalked online’ (Jennifer Bray, The Times Ireland Edition)

Yesterday: Seeking Your Vote

Previously: They Are Laughing At You

Jonathan Sugarman on Broadsheet

Gemma O’Doherty on Broadsheet

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161 thoughts on “About To Blow

  1. Cian

    Does constantly repeating that themes: “the media are so frightened” and “how terrified the establishment of #Ireland is of Gemma being elected and the #TRUTH being exposed” make it true?

    Can anyone explain how the election of Gemma to President would frighten/terrify the media and/or the establishment?

    1. Rowsdower

      An Anti-Vaxxer being president of Ireland would terrify the entire country, the media and the establishment are counted in that all encompassing group

      1. ReproButina

        This. Given the outbreak of measles in Dublin’s North Inner City I can’t think of anything I’d like less than an antivaxxer in the media spotlight.

        #VaccinateYourKids

          1. ReproButina

            More science you don’t believe in. What a shocker.

            Three things we know –
            1: vaccines work
            2: vaccines are safe
            3: culchie is a moron

          2. Owen C

            Hilariously, when you type “nvic.org” into google, the first autofill that comes up is “nvic.org credibility”

            Wiki: “The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is an American anti-vaccine organization which has been widely criticized as a leading source of vaccine misinformation and fearmongering”

            “A controversial ad produced by NVIC regarding preventive measures for influenza was aired on some Delta Air Lines flights, prompting the president of the American Academy of Pediatrics to write a letter to the CEO of Delta on Nov 4, 2011, urging Delta to ‘remove these harmful messages’.[29][30] An online petition was also set up to urge Delta to remove the ads.”

          3. Cian

            @Papi
            it’s like most vaccines.

            Starts with a little prick.
            There is initial discomfort.
            Some people get irritated.
            But finally you build up a tolerance and can ignore it.

          4. Culchie Bot

            2: vaccines are safe

            It is the height of illiterate science to ignore information that is detrimental to your thesis.

          5. More Vax

            Vaccines are not “safe” but nothing is. They are however better than the alternative.

            Adding anything to your body carries risks. My family had issue with bad reactions to vaccines. One almost resulted in death. Healthy babies started having convulsions within hours of getting the shot.

            However I vaccinated my child. I just kept a very close eye on her afterwards.

          6. Nigel

            There are children who can not and should not be vaccinated for very good reasons. Guess who’s the most vulnerable when herd immunity fails because parents choose to not vaccinate their children because they’ve read something somewhere online and want to stick it to Big Pharma?

          7. Culchie Bot

            “There are children who can not and should not be vaccinated for very good reasons”

            Is it because it is dangerous to inject these children with vaccines? [Kinda undermines the idea that vaccines are safe.]

            As for the rest of the “herd” … dose ’em up like cattle.

          8. ReproButina

            You sure are proud of your ignorance culchie. Just keep throwing it out there for all to see.

            There are many reasons why children cannot be vaccinated, for example, some are too young to receive vaccines and some have weakened immune systems.

            This has nothing to do with the safety of vaccines which, despite More Vax’s anecdote, are safe. Reactions, like that described by More Vax, are extremely rare.

          9. Nigel

            No Rep he’s exactly right. For some children vaccinations aren’t safe the rest should be vaccinated like – well I wouldn’t have said cattle but it is called herd immunity. This is quite well understood.

          10. ReproButina

            He is entirely incorrect to claim that, because it may not be safe for sick or younger children to receive a vaccine, it “undermines the idea that vaccines are safe”.

        1. Andrew

          Can you think of any other reasons that may contribute to an increase in reported cases of measles and other diseases: not just in Dublin’s North inner city, but across Europe?

          1. ReproButina

            The doctors dealing with it are blaming the lack of children receiving the necessary vaccination. You know better than the doctors dealing with it?

          2. Stating the bloody obvious

            But thankfully all the vaccinated kids were safe from harm because vaccines work.

          3. Anomanomanom

            They’ve already tracked most, I think all but cant say that for certain, case origins to people contracting it out side of Ireland and bringing it in. And unvaccinated kids catching it.

          4. ReproButina

            “But thankfully all the vaccinated kids were safe from harm because vaccines work.”
            Not everybody can be vaccinated, that’s why we rely on herd immunity. When morons decide not to vaccinate their kids the herd immunity is reduced and those who cannot be vaccinated are put at risk by the selfishness of morons.

          5. Cian

            it’s just as well we aren’t organising a massive herding of 500,000 people (many old and sick) into a confined space this weekend. That would be terrible if people with measles were to attend too.

          6. Andrew

            RetroButina: “The doctors dealing with it are blaming the lack of children receiving the necessary vaccination. You know better than the doctors dealing with it?”

            People who come from countries without vaccination programmes are the source of this outbreak. Not anti-vaxers om the internet

          7. Cian

            @Andrew
            “People who come from countries without vaccination programmes are the source of this outbreak. Not anti-vaxers om the internet”

            Do you have any evidence for this? or is it just casual anti-immigrant racism?

          8. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            A girl working in a creche (who was Polish I think) caused a family member to get TB. Maybe 10 years ago? Led to her having to have a lot of medication for a while. She’s grand now.
            I’m not making any leap here: it’s just what happened and it’s the only case I know personally.

    2. f_lawless

      Perhaps that control of public narratives that have been set by media shills or else by omission would become harder to maintain if Gemma were to speak out using the platform of president?

      1. Rowsdower

        Yeah, the control of the Rap industry would be harder to maintain if she started releasing sick rhymes and dope beats from her position as President but thats not what the job is, is it?

        1. :-Joe

          hahaha…. I’m off to sleep on that one… fo’shure..

          VOTE JIMMY “CITIZEN” SMYTH.. fo’real

          Peace bro….

          :-J

      2. Cian

        So she is going to stop being a journalist (where she has control of public narratives) and become president – to speak out against the control of public narratives.

        I’m confused.

        1. f_lawless

          Gemma controls public narratives? Are you mad? Where have you been in recent years – the attempts by establishment figures to to silence/marginalise her, etc?
          My point was that one aspect of her potential presidency could be to speak out against state corruption – shake things up a bit.

          1. Cian

            but the fact that she hasn’t been silenced/marginalised would suggests that is moot.

            The president can speak out against state corruption – but that won’t make it stop.

            The last few presidents have spoken out about lots of things – but that hasn’t made them stop. Why would Gemma be different?

          2. f_lawless

            “but the fact that she hasn’t been silenced/marginalised would suggests that is moot.”
            trying to understand your point there – you’re agreeing with me on the attempts being made to silence/marginalise, but maintaining that this has ultimately had no effect on her reporting getting across to the Irish public so is therefore irrelevant? I would say of course it’s had an effect and is very much relevant to the anti-corruption platform she’s running on and to the wider general public.

            Your next point is akin to saying “what’s the use in bringing anything outside the usual realms of establishment acceptability to the national debate, nothing will ever change anyway”.. a very pessimistic view I would say!

          3. Cian

            no, you suggested (a) media shills where controlling public narrative but (b) Gemma, as President could stop that.

            I’m suggesting that (a) is untrue; and (b) is therefore unnecessary[1].

            [1] separately I’ve suggested that (b) is not possible for the president.

          4. f_lawless

            “you suggested (a) media shills where controlling public narrative but (b) Gemma, as President could stop that”.
            When you start indulging in strawman arguments to make a point it doesn’t reflect well. Showing your hand there methinks. ;)
            Never said Gemma as President could stop media shills controlling public narratives.

          5. Cian

            @f_lawless “Never said Gemma as President could stop media shills controlling public narratives.”

            You said “Perhaps that control of public narratives that have been set by media shills or else by omission would become harder to maintain if Gemma were to speak out using the platform of president?”

            My bad, not “stop”, but “harder to maintain”.

            But this doesn’t change my point that this is moot – because (a) media shills are not controlling the public narrative.

    3. rotide

      So much this.

      Disregarding all her anti-vax and conspiracy leanings (and they are enormous elephants in the room), her tweet is pure unadulterated Trump. Nobody is frightened of her. Noone is terrified of her. The #truth is not going to be exposed, she’s just going to bang on and on about her being ‘silenced’ when people are just rightly taking her to task.

      Bodger linked an interview with her from the Irish Times. As establishment and Mainstream as you can get and they are printing her words. If anyone think shes being silenced , they are the exact idiots that she’ll be aiming to appeal to. Unfortunately, given some of the comments here and on twitter, they’re out there.

      1. rotide

        I stand corrected.

        The point still stands. She’s not being silenced. She is suing people on a rate that would excite Denis O’Brien though. Any thoughts on that?

        1. Frilly Keane

          well she says she’s suing them or mentions she has spoken with solicitors
          that’s about the height of what I read

          just like blocking someone on the twitter etc really
          int’it

        2. andy

          She’s not suing anyone.

          She’s “threatening” to sue people to try shut them up.

          I doubt anyone cares.

    4. Giggidygoo

      You’re out of the blocks very diarrheaesque Cian. You’d be in a good position to answer your own question.

    1. Andrew

      You have tolook no further than the comments on broadsheet. The usual twtter luvvies as well in their filter bubble.

          1. Ger Mc

            I am a water protester, first out of me box to be anti-establishment but even I think they are just looking for the glory and the likes on twitter. It’s sll about them and I don’t like the way Mary Boyle has been used to go for presidency. It leaves a really bad taste in my mouth

  2. Starina

    the phrases “media are frightened”, “terrified” and “#truth” are never indicators of a candidate who uses logic and reasoning instead of feelings and “intuition”.

    1. rotide

      I don’t agree with you often Starina, but I’m with you on this. I’m suspicious of her even before I am fully aware of her platform/policy

  3. Owen C

    “The DESPICABLE treatment by @KittyHollandIT personally, and the @IrishTimes in general, of @gemmaod1 and myself”

    I always find it fantastic how Jonathan makes it about him. Especially the hashtagging of his own name all the time.

    1. Cian

      I was wondering – do you need to hastag yourself in your own post? Is that unnecessary? or is there a hope that people will #copyandpaste #allthecontent into #anothertweet #questionmark
      #Cian

    2. Frilly Keane

      I don’t get why he thinks he’s still a thing tbh
      if he ever was one anyway

      like Eugene McErlean was well before him,
      and with two major Irish Banking whistle-blowing events
      and within the Retail banking sector as well

      open t’ correction
      but didn’t the whistle-blowing legislation come in on the back of Eugene McErlean’s disclosures and subsequent treatment by AIB?

      1. Ciuncainteach

        Not quite – The blanket whistleblowing protection legislation was in the works for some time, but was only enacted in 2014. Many parties deserve credit for bringing it over the finish line, but I would consider the McCabe case as being the most instrumental.

        1. Frilly Keane

          true about Maurice McCabe
          but in land of financial scandals and banking misbehavior
          Eugene McErlean came first and foremost to this other lad with the hashtag title

          1. Ciuncainteach

            Absolutely – agree 100% on that front. There are many others as well who raised concerns leading up to the financial crisis, but without the public profile of Sugarman or McErlean.

            Sugarman did the right thing by reporting the liquidity concerns to the Central Bank, and the treatment he suffered as a result is appalling and should be condemned.

            He has a tendency of publishing pablum on twitter. He wouldn’t be my source for insights into the banking & finance sector.

  4. missred

    There was a disastrous interview on Cork’s Red 96 FM where she tried to rubbish the MMR vaccine and blocked and threatened to sue an autism rights lady who asked legitimate questions about where these views came from.

    1. Jeffrey

      The lady activist defamed GoD by practically accusing her of causing the measles outbreaks, on live Radio. I cant understand how some people can think this is ok and how they wouldn’t also want to defend their names if someone was to do that to them.

      1. Nigel

        If you’re an anti-vaxxer you’re going to be held responsible for the return of measles quite goddamn rightly.

        1. Jeffrey

          Then that lady can go prove that GoD is in fact Anit-Vaxxer. I have not seen anything showing such yet.

          1. missred

            That lady (activist Fiona O’Leary) did not call GoD an anti vaxxer as such. She called her out about specific things said about actual vaccines. If you wish to hear the exact words, I’m sure you can play back the audio on Red FM’s site.

        2. f_lawless

          but the thing is she isn’t an “anti-vaxxer” and has explicitly stated so. It’s possible to both appreciate the scientific benefits of vaccines while at the same time report on potential malpractices within the pharmaceutical industry I would have thought?

          1. ReproButina

            “If the HPV vaccine is as safe as the nearly hysterical defenders say it is, it is well able to stand up to scrutiny” – GO’D

            “The HPV vaccination programme is safe. […] Two vaccines are licensed to prevent HPV infections: Gardasil and Cervarix. The Gardasil 4 vaccine is the one currently used in the national vaccination programme for second-level school girls. These vaccines are licensed by the Health Products Regulatory Authority and the European Medicines Agency. These agencies have strict procedures for the licensing and monitoring of all vaccines to ensure their safety and effectiveness. […] The World Health Organization Global Advisory Committee for Vaccine Safety (GACVS) has reviewed the evidence on the safety of Gardasil vaccine. The WHO concluded in December 2015 that Gardasil continues to have an excellent safety profile.]…] In November 2015 the European Medicines Agency (EMA) reported on a review of HPV vaccines. This report found no evidence the vaccine was linked to chronic fatigue like conditions.” – https://www.cancer.ie/reduce-your-risk/healthy-lifestyle/europeancode/hpv-vaccine#sthash.paYMKxxi.dpbs

            So is it that
            1) she’s unaware of the scrutiny the HPV vaccine has been through, or
            2) she doesn’t trust those scrutinising it (the WHO and EMA), or
            3) she’s an anti-vaxxer masquerading as someone “just asking questions”?

          2. Nigel

            She’s a journalist, and therefore should be capable of providing clarity on this as a matter of course.

  5. Rowsdower

    She spouts stupid unscientific stupidity about vaccines and then when asked about the veracity of the source material its based on, she says shes “Just asking questions”.

    Of course, if someone is just asking questions about the actual things she has said and written, she threatens to sue them.

    1. Bodger

      This is Gemma’s position per the Times Ireland edition (behind paywall)

      She also addressed accusations that she was opposed to vaccinations. “My father was a pharmacist and my mother was a nurse,” she said. “My father was a traditional chemist in that he had huge respect for drugs and knew how dangerous they could be. As a result of that, I have questioned the use of drugs, I have questioned the overuse of antibiotics and I have also listened to concerns of parents who say that they believe their children may have been injured by the HPV vaccine,” she said.
      “Just because the HSE tells us that something is safe, should we just trust them blindly? I believe that the women who are now dying as a result of the cervical smear scandal would have an opinion about that. If the HPV vaccine is as safe as the nearly hysterical defenders say it is, it is well able to stand up to scrutiny.“We must challenge everything that is put into our children’s bodies. Anyone who is afraid of that, they clearly have something to fear.”

      1. Owen C

        “I believe that the women who are now dying as a result of the cervical smear scandal would have an opinion about that”

        Epic whataboutery.

        “If the HPV vaccine is as safe as the nearly hysterical defenders say it is, it is well able to stand up to scrutiny”

        This is the “I’m just asking questions” defence. Its the modern day version of the Chewbacca defence. Gemma’s own comments should be able to stand up to scrutiny without her threatening to sue everyone.

        1. Anomanomanom

          Niiicccceee south park reference. But I agree with her on the question everything part, as in scrutinise things. But then questioning things that are proven,over years, to work is idiotic.

          1. Owen C

            I have no problem with her questioning or scrutinising stuff. But she can’t just fall back on that as a defence for raising issues which have already been robustly scrutinised by actual experts over decades. Issues like anti-vax are only perpetuated by giving them airtime and a platform for discussion. Look at Trump and many quasi-racist talking points (ethno-nationalism) which are now being given mainstream billing in the US.

      2. b

        the HSE advice on HPV is based on scientific evidence, conflating it with operational issues in cervical screening is objectionable in my opinion

        1. Bodger

          Rowsdower, if Gemma gets nominated she will come under intense scrutiny and will need to account for everything she has done (like every other candidate). But this seems like an attempt to stop Gemma even getting on the ballot.

          1. Cian

            @Bodger
            All potential candidates come under intense scrutiny, not just her.
            And if she (or any potentials) are not suitable then this should happen as soon as possible – otherwise they are preventing a more suitable candidate getting onto the ballot.
            There is a limit to the number of candidates – so these shouldn’t be wasted on the unelectable.

          2. Bodger

            Cian, but this isn’t normal scrutiny, it’s something else entirely. The Irish Times, to use one obvious example, could interview Gemma and ask her the hard questions but instead they have chosen to let their journalists attack her online. Who benefits from that?

          3. Owen C

            the SBP (i think) ran a big piece about Gavin Duffy’s links to Denis O’Brien etc. We eagerly await you running a piece complaining about the establishment vendetta designed to keep him off the ballot.

          4. b

            A candidate also qualifies for 200k in funding from the state and addition to dedicated airtime from broadcasters – to suggest they should only get vetting after they get on the ballot is crazy

            every other candidate faces the same and candidates backed by parties will go through internal vetting by elected representatives. What you are seeing here is democracy in action

          5. Cian

            @Bodger
            The Irish Times[..] could interview Gemma and ask her the hard questions but instead they have chosen to let their journalists attack her online.

            Are you insinuating that the Irish Times have instructed their journalists to attack Gemma? Or do you want to re-word that?

          6. ReproButina

            That’s not how it reads to me Cian. At most it suggests the IT have decided to turn a blind eye to any such attacks.

          7. Frilly Keane

            here Cian
            you don’t get to decide if someone is un-electable

            the voter does

            n’ Bodge is spot on there
            Interview the Candidate, print it publish it, and put it out there for all of us
            insteada this carryon on social media

            n’ one wonders why print media is in a jock

          8. Cian

            @Frilly: I never said anything about me deciding if someone is un-electable.

            A maximum of 10 candidates can be nominated by the Oireachtas, and another 7 by the councils. In reality most of the TDs & Senators & Councils won’t nominate anyone. So only a few people will get the opportunity to become a candidate.

            I was suggesting that (all) the potential candidates should be scrutinised to ensure that only those with a possibility of election actually get nominated – otherwise they are preventing a realistic candidate running.

        1. Jeffrey

          I read in there that perhaps Blair knew of the McCanns but did not want this revealed? Also its a fair point to question why Blair spent a lot of resources on this case and not others? What do you read?

      3. Nigel

        Hmm is she going to give any actual clarity on her position on vaccinations as she prepares to run for political office as an outsider or is she going to keep obfuscating and blathering like any other politician?

          1. Nigel

            That’s a lot of obfuscation and political bumf and gives the impression she’s trying to soften a few edges and gloss over past statements that might have been a bit extreme. Deeply unimpressive for an anti-establishment candidate, but unsurprising.

      4. rotide

        Hey look!!

        It’s the Irish Time #SILENCING Gemma by printing her words!

        OOh, the MSM at it again with their evil platforms and giving them to Gemma

          1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Yeah, rotide. Have a slice of chill cake, man. Relax the kaks. Relaxez vous.

            That always works––especially when said extremely condescendingly, I find.

          2. Joe Small

            Bodger, I think you’ve damaged Broadsheet.ie by pushing your own views on here. Obviously Broadsheet has a liberal left-of-centre outlook and that’s fine, but your pushing of a specific and sometimes quite odd agenda is really not in Broadsheet’s interests. Maybe log in as another user when pushing your quackery?

  6. Dave R

    Go Gemma! It would be a breath of fresh air to have someone like you as president. Obviously the roll is limited, but the platform would help spread your message of anti-corruption for sure. I think you could help shed much needed light on issues of the day.
    And Jonathan Sugarman should be appointed chair of the newly formed banking culture board! Thats a no brainer.

      1. Dave R

        A disgraceful response. Sugarman is and was an honest guy highlighting corruption. Nothing to sneer at here.
        But looking at many of the comments on here your not the only bottom feeder on here making light entertainment out of decent people with good intentions, i feel sorry for you and your raggletag friends on here.

        1. Owen C

          He didn’t highlight corruption. He highlighted incompetence in his bank and was unhappy at what he deemed to be a slow internal investigation and light touch regulatory response to it. He shouts about banksters and corruption etc, but this is the literal summary version of his complaint. No corruption, no fraud, no hidden losses, he wasn’t fired, he wasn’t harrassed. He remains surprised that after going public and embarrassing both the regulator and his previous employer he now finds it difficult to get a job in the industry. This may not be ‘fair’, but it is entirely understandable and predictable.

          1. f_lawless

            This take on the narrative was brought to you by your resident establishment spokesperson, Owen C.

          2. Johnny

            It’s all a bit small ball,your trolling on here and elsewhere off Gemma, given how much bum area kissing of the hacks at the SBP and third rate irrelevant academics you engage in!

          3. Dave R

            Get your head out of the sand, it wasn’t incompetence it was corruption of the highest order! Banks don’t make mistakes at that level, or if they do they are calculated ones. You and your friends here are playing a very nasty game on here. It seems like you are just having fun and poking jokes at people.
            Your acceptance of ‘understandable’ predictable corruption, harassment and incompetence in our banking sector is sad to say the least. Its time you and your friends here started to grow some back bone and help this country become something other than the vultures paradise its becoming!

          4. Owen C

            Banks do make mistakes at that level. I know because I have worked for banks and directly seen mistakes made at that level. But thanks for the insight.

          5. Dave R

            There were so many mistakes made, a lay person like me can say that and even shout it from the roof tops without any fear of snide comments from you and your pals!
            But the issue here is we can do better why should those massive ‘mistakes’ go unpunished/unregulated and with the help of good honest people like Sugarman and O’Doherty mistakes and CORRUPTION can be taken to task, and not just swept under the carpet, or bandied around here like a bad joke, but we can change things for the better! i believe it, so should you.

      2. SugerWho?

        Yes except it was just a big floater… No toilets blocked!! Unicredit did not have liquidty issues during the crisis… He jumped ship whilst it at the marina… Nonsense

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      I’d vote for one of the dragons before I’d vote for her tbh. Antivaxx, antichoice, antitrans all dressed up as “just asking questions”

      She uses Cernovitch as a resource and she’s spouting some batplop link between Tony Blair and the McCanns to Donegal. I feel sorry for the Boyle and Molloy families that some decent investigative journalism is being overshadowed by some Grade A conspiracy theory madness! We’re only short of her saying Miggledy is one of the lizard folk.

      The Tinfoil Hat brigade have a candidate to rally round and they can have her!

      1. Dave R

        I’d rather don a tin foil hat then stay part of the rabbit in the headlights brigade, blinded by no news rte and Irish MSM! Most normal people see through all your mud slinging! Go back to what ever hole you crawled out of!

  7. Nigel

    Great an anti-vaxxer seems set to be given a national stage, and the more people object to her views the more other anti-vaxxers will rally to her as anti-establishment, and plenty of people will find that attractive enough to give credence to her anti-vax nonsense. I remember there was a debate here about freedom of speech and some idiot said there was no such thing as dangerous words. Well here you go. Children will die.

    1. f_lawless

      So it’s been decided then. The esteemed commenters on Broadsheet have deemed her to be a crazy “anti-vaxxer” and let there be no more debate about it. Who cares what she has to say in her defence

      1. Nigel

        Hey, if she runs for president, she will get the opportunity to win me over, but at some point both herself and her supporters are going to have to stop blaming literally everyone but herself and themselves for negative impressions.

  8. hapfff

    would love to hear from the families of Mary Boyle and Fr Niall about what they think of Gemma O’Doherty’s campaign. I’m sure they are absolutely delighted and support her 100%

      1. hapfff

        well what a surprise. honestly, if she was at all genuine, she would be easily able to bring all of those who she has ‘campaigned’ for along with her. would be quite powerful actually, to see them speak out in support of her

        but she can’t, because she’s a deluded conspiracist with a massive ego

      2. Rob_G

        Yikes – I always had her down as a bit of an egoist, but from reading some of the #SueMeGemma stuff on twitter, she really seems like a narcissist of the highest order.

      1. rotide

        He’s the establishment candidate?

        Not the actual first citizen of the establishment who is running to continue to be the first citizen of the establishment?

  9. Paul Flynn

    GoD did some interesting work regarding Fr Molly but i seem to remember she had some strange views on LGBTQ and abortion. Can anyone remind me about her stance on these?

  10. Tom

    This is insane. The family have confirmed that this named relative had never used twitter. That it has no association to the real campaign group.

    Somebody is pretending to be the twin sister. Look at all the activity and the person being retweeted. Despicable.

    https://twitter.com/marybjustice?lang=en

    1. Catherine costelloe

      To the best of my knowledge the person opeating the Justice for Mary page came on board after Gemma o Dohertys documentary. Cousins to Ann Doherty and they were totally unaware of the background into Marys disappearance up to that point. In fact I don’t think they had even met Ann until Gemma o Doherty reported on the case. Obviously a dispute arose but I know Gemma o Doherty facilitated Ann to go to Stormont , Westminster, European Parliament and USA in effort to get justice for Mary.

  11. Lilly

    If Gemma had told the Indo to take their hush money and stuff it up their jacksie, as Vicky Phelan did with the HSE, I would attempt to take her seriously.

  12. Lilly

    Gemma to Kitty: ‘My legal team have advised me…’ This made me laugh, coming from a journo. Has, Gemma, has advised me. Carry on.

    But at least she has Cora Sherlock in her corner :)

      1. Lilly

        How is it nasty to discuss a potential candidate’s suitability, and trash out perceptions of that person?

        Nasty would be to undermine her character based on lies. I haven’t seen anybody do that here.

        1. Parka the Otter

          Lily,

          My comment doesn’t refer to the thread above but to the twitter responses from fellow journalists leaping the fence from professional to personal more impressively than Harvey Smith at Beecher’s Brook.

          This comment from a tweeter in response says it better than I can.

          https://twitter.com/scrahallia/status/1032748062354165760

          If I thought they would otherwise be forgotten, I would post links to the tweets referred to but I have a feeling that they are going to be in wide circulation before long.

  13. Catherine costelloe

    Maurice Mc Cabe sued RTE , Irish Times and the Indo.
    When he was in dire straits and in deep distress his father sought balance in the media to help his son. Who did he call? Gemma o Doherty. That came out in the tribunal. I dislike personal sneering remarks and don’t think she deserves it.

  14. Catherine costelloe

    You are being petty now….I have never used twitter. I have posted what I believe to be the truth.

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