On The Island


Former US president Bill Clinton in Dublin in 2018

Last night/this morning.

Documents about dealings between Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were publicly released.

Virginia Giuffre, who  accused Epstein of sex trafficking, said that she once saw former US President Bill Clinton on Epstein’s island with “two young girls” from New York.

Via Newsweek:

In the questioning by lawyer Jack Scarola, Guiffre was asked, “Do you have any recollection of Jeffrey Epstein’s specifically telling you that ‘Bill Clinton owes me favors?'”

“Yes, I do,” Guiffre answered. “It was a laugh though. He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey what’s Bill Clinton doing here [on Epstein’s island] kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said well he owes me favors.”

“He never told me what favors they were,” Guiffre continued. “I never knew. I didn’t know if he was serious. It was just a joke… He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They’re all in each other’s pockets.”

Shortly thereafter, Scarola asked her “Were sexual orgies a regular occurrence on the island at Jeffrey’s house?” Guiffre responded, “Yes.”

Scarola then asked if she was ever present with Epstein and Clinton on the island.

“Ghislane, Emmy [another girl who was allegedly a regular at Epstein’s house], and there was 2 young girls that I could identify. I never really knew them well anyways. It was just 2 girls from New York,” Guiffre answered, and said they were all staying in Epstein’s house on the island.

Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein’s Island With 2 ‘Young Girls’, Virginia Giuffre Says (Newsweek)





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27 thoughts on “On The Island

  1. Cian

    “Ghislane, Emmy [another girl who was allegedly a regular at Epstein’s house], and there was 2 young girls that I could identify. I never really knew them well anyways. It was just 2 girls from New York,” Guiffre answered, and said they were all staying in Epstein’s house on the island.

    Just to be picky – this paragraph isn’t accurate. The quotes above says “He had about 4 or 5 different villas on his island separate from the main house, and we all stayed in the villas.”

    Clinton and the 2 young girls might have shared a villa. Or they may have had separate villas.

  2. Nigel

    You’d think Trump/Barr’s DOJ would be going after this hammer and tongs, but it all seems very… half-hearted? If there’s one thing that could help Trump’s re-election it’d be nailing a small army of rich and powerful rapists to the walls. He spun up a storm on far less evidence to get dirt on Biden from Ukraine, but he’s staying away from a strong link between a prominent Democrat and a sex trafficker?

    1. Prima Facie

      Nigel maintains Pizzagate was a fabrication and yet here we have the same thing – powerful elites trafficking people for sex – and now Nigel blames Trump for not getting involved??

      Or, my deal Nigel, Trump is letting the DOJ do it’s job and is resolutely not interfering in an on-going investigation and/or court case.

      Prima facie Biden and his son were up to no good dirtyy dealing in Ukraine (btw, a known Human Trafficking hub).

      Trump has dropped hints about all this (esp Epstein) before getting elected. Now he’s the President he’s letting the legal process run its course – something he always does despite your attempts to lie about that and anything else Trump achieves.

      TDS is for life apparently. How sad.

      1. Nigel

        Pizzagate was a fabrication. Entirely and completely fabricated. Now it mostly exists to accuse Tom Hanks of being a pedophile. The only reason Epstein came back into prominence was because of extensive and brilliant reporting by the Miami Herald, nothing whatsoever to do with Barr’s DOJ or Q or pizzagate. The idea of Trump showing restraint and not interfering or at a minimum opinionating about something that you theorise will expose and utterly destroy all his enemies as evil is completely at odds with his demonstrated personality. This is the guy who had Roy Cohn as a mentor.

        1. Prima Facie

          Pizzagate is all too real. The fabrication(s) were introduced by the political cover-up machine trying to distract from an elite pedo ring in Washington DC.

          These same fabrications are now peddled by you to continue the distraction.

          Why are you trying to provide cover for pedophiles?

          Do you think these people only kept their predilections for the island?

          (Trump fired Cohn btw. He also barred Epstein from his properties long ago.)

          1. Nigel

            Fired? Barred? Why not report them to the police? Why is Trump providing cover for pedophiles, is the better question.

        2. Junkface

          Ha ha ha! Pizzagate was not real. That is ridiculous rubbish. Didn’t an armed idiot enter the restaurant to free kidnapped kids (in his head) from the basement only to discover the building had no basement? This was early Qanon rubbish that was easily debunked. Farcical!

          It is completely unrelated to the Epstein case.

          1. Nigel

            It wasn’t even Qanon – it was one of a string of hoax stuff sprayed out by one of the chan sites, though Q emerged in more or less the same way. People talk about cancel culture ruining lives, but this is so much more insidious and nasty and destructive of lives and corrosive to politics, not to mention a source of ugly harassment for their chosen targets. They doxx people and try to get them fired or just forced off social media all the itime. But they’re not ‘woke’ and are genuinely kind of scary, intense and immune to any sort of reason, so it’s just easier to go after ‘cancel culture.’

    1. Nigel

      Take your pick, but it’s all speculation, anything from he’s implicated in Epstein’s sex crimes to he actually just doesn’t care, and what he doesn’t care about might as well not exist, with all sorts of possibilities in between.

      OR, it’s possible I’m wrong and there’s a furious and vast investigation going on in the background, but I kind of doubt it.

  3. Johnnythree

    I don’t think Trump ever does not care. He is highly attuned to caring when it works for him.

    1. Nigel

      So he either thinks going after Clinton won’t work for him – an odd position since going after Biden literally got him impeached and Clinton’s such an easy and obvious target here – or there are other reasons. Since there are weird murky intelligence connections supposedly involved, it’s possible he’s been warned off by the CIA/FBI/DOJ whoever from making a media storm out of it in his usual way, but since when did he heed that kind of warning if it got in the way of something he wanted? He’s not likely to give a damn about being just implicated – there’s a pile of accusations of rape and assault against him already and his base don’t care. There’s either actual proof OR he was warned off by someone he actually listens to OR he just does not give a damn.

      1. Johnnythree

        Nigel I don’t think Clinton is an easy target. It is odd that Trump is not pushing this. I don’t think the rape sexual assault stuff Trump was allegedly involved in before would match the significance of the Epstein case.

        1. Nigel

          What’s truly bizarre is his suuporters have made a fetish out of him NOT doing anything about the ring of powerful pedophiles he has infiltrated intending to expose and destroy. Pain is coming. Always coming.

        2. Cian

          From what I’ve seen (which is very limited) there seem to be pictures of Trump with Epstein (+ young girls) too.

          I think Trump isn’t going after Clinton because he is tarred with the same brush.

          1. yupyup

            Possibly that. Or he’s biding his time with it. Has he much to gain politically by attacking Clinton here?

          2. Nigel

            Damaging to the Democrats, rallying his base? He should be all over that low-hanging fruit. What’s the percentage in leaving it till, say, October? He’ll be rightly challenged as having done nothing about it, or slow-walking it when forced to by the Miami Herald’s report, for four years.

          3. yupyup

            I don’t know. If the ball doesn’t have Biden’s mits on it it might not be worth playing in a major way.

          4. Nigel

            He’s fixated on Biden, all right (understandably) but given how the Ukraine thing rebounded on him, it’s going to be tough for any of his usual nonsense to gain traction while everyone’s focusing on the utter catastrophe of his current record.

          5. Junkface

            According to testimony from the girls who were victims, there were cameras placed in all of the bedrooms of Epstein properties. They were told this by Maxwell and Epstein. So it only took one sexual act from a Trump or Clinton to be compromised and blackmailed.

          6. Nigel

            That certainly is a possibility, but none of these films or photos have come to light or been presented as evidence so far. If and until they start to come out, I’m afraid this whole thing will stay as an immensely frustrating, opaque and unjust legal slow-burn slow-walk.

  4. Junkface

    Considering that Epstein had hidden cameras everywhere on his properties, this was the primary source for Blackmailing all of the powerful men of the US. Trump was also at many of these parties like Clinton, so I would say they also have stuff on Trump. But Clinton flying to the island so much does not look good for him. They must have lots on Clinton. The question is will the US Gov’t kill Ghislaine before she spills the beans on these men? Its coming, or else this could be the biggest shock to US power circles if she is allowed to make a deal for naming everyone involved. It will be interesting

    1. Termagant

      I can picture a comedy of errors as assassins dispatched simultaneously from a dozen different angles come to blows in the attempt

    2. Lilly

      Maybe she has let it be known that if she hangs herself with a duvet, the videos will automatically be released.

  5. class wario

    lol after all the cancel culture handwringing ye try and publicly shame somebody for using some random (apparently) bill clinton quote

  6. White Dove

    Thanks for featuring this. Just the tip of the iceberg in the kids for gain world I’m afraid.

    We should know. We’ve been selling off our babies throughout the 20th century and teenagers to the British army throughout the previous one.

    Don’t kid yourself it’s not still going on right here, either Child porn convictions and middle-aged folk addicted to underage teens.

    And what about those missing children from Direct Provision?

    Please keep running these stories.

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