116 thoughts on “Saturday’s Papers

  1. Tarfton Clax

    The Mullet making a comeback? Awesome. Now maybe Metallica will make good records again, and hopefully the return of Hi Top Runners, cut off tee shirts and Double live Rush albums with Drum Solos! YES!!

  2. Cian

    From today’s Irish times;

    a secret [Facebook group called “Sinn Fein”] of 16,000 supporters which some [SF] TDs and councillors were members of until this week.

    The supporters’ group contained abusive and sometimes violent comments about numerous high-ranking politicians including the Taoiseach and Tánaiste. It was not searchable on Facebook and members could only get access if they were specifically invited.

    Stay classy Shinners

    1. Brother Barnabas

      a secret group of SFers saying rude things? shocker

      still a bit to go before it’s on a par with a greasy cabal of FFGers open to subvert planning and other regulations in exchange for cash

      still, though… stay classy etc

      1. Gabby

        I’ve never been invited to join Sinn Fein or the Freemasons or Opus Dei or the Bilderberg group – and I hope none of these furtive people invite me or my friends.

    2. Bitnboxy

      Well, suffice it to say I would not be surprised were our very own BS nasty Shinnerbot GiggidyGoo part of this “group”. This explains things. Vile.

        1. GiggidyGoo

          That’s a link to an image, created by who, we don’t know. Link to the actual facebook page would be helpful. If such a link isn’t available, then the story wouldn’t hold up. Plus, any link to facebook itself confirming that someone asked for it to be taken down?

          1. GiggidyGoo

            @Cian
            Great. So. anyone can claim such a page exists, post some unprofessional photo-shopped montage image and we are to believe it?
            ‘It’s true – we can’t show you the link though because it’s secret’ That’s the Irish Times of course.

            Totally unlike the reporting of a Taoiseach posting confidential State documents to a buddy, which was true and proven to be true.

            Surprised at you relying on on such a report actually. Lame and piddle poor posting.

            Bit at least you’ve attracted the support of the least educated poster here. Kudos.

          2. Bitnboxy

            @Giggidybot. Your scumbag Shinnerbotting is quite shameless. Were this a secret FG group, you would be giving yourself a hernia denouncing your sworn enemies and spending an entire day hurling your usual tiresome insults without any talk of compelling “evidence”.

            Grow up.

          3. Cian

            @GiggidyGoo
            Your post has:
            – deflection ✓
            – distraction ✓
            – personal insults ✓
            – whataboutery ✓
            – denying the facts ✓
            – hypocrisy ✓

            wow – 6/6

          4. GiggidyGoo

            Deflecting / distracting how? Pointing out that by you depending on a story in a newspaper without any backup, other than mashed up number of comments with blurred images, and bigged up with the words ‘secret facebook page’ in order to start a discussion was lame – even for you? And giving you an excellent example of a media article that was backed up by facts. No distraction or deflection. Facts.

            Denying the facts? What facts? The only fact I can see is that a newspaper has printed a story it cannot back up (so far anyway), and you’ve fallen for it hook line and sinker.

            WhatBoutery? See paragraph 1.

            Hypocrisy? -(Was that an attempt at insulting me.?….hypocrisy alright – you’re an expert)

            Personal insults? “lame and piddle poor” aren’t personal. They are descriptions of the type of posting that is made without having facts. Don’t take it personally – learn from it.

            So, none of the 6 as it happens.

          5. GiggidyGoo

            @Rob.
            Try writing about something you know something about. For gods sake stop making a fool of yourself.

          1. johnny

            fair plan Sinn Fein they at least know what restorative justice is.

            The president of the united states standing tall grinning and hugging our Rita-be proud not shamed by the sun and west brits.

      1. ce

        One of the few comments I’d agree with by Varadkar is that there are nutters in all parties. I would go so far as to say that a sizeable number of the membership of all Irish political parties (and probably elsewhere) should not be trusted with a can of beans. In terms of who we vote into the Dail – I don’t think any Irish party of any political persuasion can be allowed have more that 45 seats for the foreseeable future, it would destroy the country…. and yes many will comment “too late, it’s already destroyed”, to whom I would suggest taking up residence in Guatemala, in or around the disputed regions of the Ukraine, or perhaps Afghanistan etc.. and take your comments to the Journal comment sections! Yes, we could be in much better shape, but we’re not completely destroyed, there is actually some hope!

    3. Jimmy TwoShoes

      The funniest thing about that article is the part where it talks about “the rules of the group specifically state no cursing and yet there are many curse words in the comments”. Jesus wept, welcome to the internet.

    1. bisted

      …nice to see you Charger…happy solstice…thought you would have gone into hiding before now…Boris about to pull his BluePeter/TeresaMay already agreed climbdown document and that mullet is the closest the French will let you near fish…

      1. Charger Salmons

        Yawn.
        Take a rest chump.
        It’s Saturday.
        That means watching sport and getting pissed not snivelling about Brexit from strangers on the internet who don’t give a monkeys.
        Get.a.life.

        1. Joe F

          How many percentage points is your hero Bozo ahead in the polls old boy? You haven’t updated us in at least 8 or 9 days. Irish people really need to know this. Come on old sport.

        2. Charlie

          “Watching sport and getting pissed”. Spoken like a true Englander footie fan. Millwall supporter too?

    2. Joe F

      What about your prediction a while back that everything would be normal by Christmas in England you clown? I know you won’t respond old boy, that’s your MO.

      1. millie bobby brownie

        It’s okay, Bodger. I have one too these days, thanks to lockdown haircuts. They’re really very flattering.

  3. ce

    No Christmas Truce in the Comments Section?

    … if you don’t have something nice to say maybe don’t say anything at all…which would be the end to the internet

    1. Charger Salmons

      Indeed.
      The usual flea circus performing their tricks to an uninterested audience.
      They never seem to get the hint.
      Bless.

      1. Papi

        No, he really is my friend Janet

        Ha ha ha ha

        But you’re right about you being a flea circus. On your knees, boy!

  4. Joe F

    Still ignoring 90% of what’s going on around you old boy. Good man. I wish I could do that where I work! Still, some of us have to do an honest days shift. It would be lovely to focus on the 10% that’s good and spout on endlessly about it. Marvelous indeed.

      1. Brother Barnabas

        see here it is in all its bare naked ingratitude- we open our arms and the gates to the pale, and let the mullahs from the sticks in to run amok, give them access to employment, education, housing with electricity and plumbing, foreign food; accept them despite their country quirks, odd odour and rural ways… yet they begrudge our unstoppable romp to 10 in a row

          1. scottser

            Yes V, us dubs do have an odour you would find odd – its called ‘success’.
            Dubs for Sam
            Mayo for samwiches

          2. Papi

            Cheers, Gigs, but if Limerick and Waterford are playing, what’s the mayo/Dublin schtick?
            Kickball and sticksball is all the same to me.

          3. scottser

            Papi – Mayo have a curse on them from the last time they won an all Ireland. Google it, its hilarious.

          4. V AKA Frilly Keane

            An’ c’mere Scottie
            Yis had a long enough wait for that No. 1 in the current sequence
            And more talk than all of Mayhoo
            And Waherfurd
            From ye throughout all those barren years

            Including yer Management
            Looking at you Mr Carr

            That Johnny Cooper didn’t lick it off the ground

          5. millie bobby brownie

            I was hoping Bertie might put in an appearance for the day that’s in it.

            I miss my internet husband.

  5. Johnny

    Ireland’s war on drugs has been waged in the working class communities,the lack of leadership by Gino and Richard on -Retroactive ameliorative relief-is indicative of their failure to advance any meaningful changes in cannabis laws.

    Retroactive ameliorative relief-wtf is it ?

    https://race-and-social-justice-review.law.miami.edu/emerging-marijuana-legalization-retroactive-ameliorative-relief/

    This is not justice.

    “An adult caution for any of these four offences can only be considered in respect of an offence committed on or after 14 December 2020 and cannot be applied retrospectively.“

    The reality is too many rich white FG voters and farmers are now getting caught.

    https://irishlegal.com/article/garda-to-issue-cautions-to-adults-caught-with-cannabis

      1. johnny

        ….its a Saturday morning,actually dressed in running gear,about brave the sub zero temp’s,few feet snow and try 5 miles, including two miles on beach:)

        (i may only get end drive)

        -but i am grinding up some ‘rythm’ Energize mini buds,as i will warm up on the Peloton, smoke that joint then hit the icy roads.

        https://rythm.com/#flower

        whats you day again-oh right cans and soccer on the telly from the lazy boy……

        1. millie bobby brownie

          Um, I don’t think bragging about smoking a joint first thing in the morning is the big win you seem to think it is.

          It’s like bragging about drinking wine for breakfast.

          1. Johnny

            (It’s a Saturday,we just had record snow,Xmas holidays,hardly first thing ,I get up at 5)

            If I was home I’d be fast asleep till noon,then bloody marys at paddy cullens,24 hour drinking,bad hash,crap coke and early houses,field drinking,bookies, horse racing and day drinking at race meets,nightclubs,lose women x GF’s ….vows to never drink again:and hangovers from hell:)

            But the kids are all right.

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I wouldn’t be bragging about five WHOLE miles either… lightweight ;)

    1. Toby

      Isn’t that where your lot mowed down 14 innocent Irishmen? A other disgusting chapter in your history of brutalism. Show some respect and don’t ever mention the place again- bigot.

      1. ReproBertie

        14 innocent Irishmen? What a surprise that Toby only half knows the history. 11 innocent Irishmen, 1 innocent Irishwoman and 2 innocent Irish children but you probably don’t count murdered children.

          1. ReproBertie

            Two boys. William Robinson (11) and Jerome O’Leary (10).

            One of the other Irishmen, John William Scott, was only 14.

            Check out The Bloodied Field podcast for a very in-depth look at it all. I recommended it before and Toby announced that he didn’t need me teaching him anything. Perhaps he should have listened.

    2. Joe F

      You clown, how about looking at the TAM ratings on Monday on the Media Live website for the All-Ireland Final. I can predict (remember your track record on those, old boy?) that the figures for it will be massive. I think you’ll find a few more watching that compared to the Ireland England cricket match earlier this year that got you all excited. Nothing against cricket, but the numbers watching don’t lie. Although, you’ll probably argue that 12,000 is a bigger number than c600,000.

      1. Papi

        Maybe he can ask his tenement, I mean tenant friends around.

        Oh right, they’re not his friends, nobody is.

    3. Redundant Proofreaders Society

      The ‘sporting world’ still don’t understand Gaelic games. And that’s how we like it.

      Up the Dubs.

  6. bisted

    …nice to see you Charger…happy solstice…thought you would gone into hiding before now…Boris about to pull his BluePeter/TeresaMay already agreed climbdown document and a recipe for French style halibut…marvelous…

    1. Charger Salmons

      So how is it going so far in Blighty ?
      Eleven days of vaccinations of elderly and vulnerable people and Oxford University’s coronavirus vaccine is expected to be approved shortly after Christmas, which is good news for Ireland which has ordered 3.3 million doses of it.
      So all in all not bad.
      But if you think news of a mutant and possibly more contagious strain of Covid-19 in London and the South-East which has consequences for countries all over Europe is something to make fun of then you’re an even sadder individuual than I already had you down for.

      1. Joe F

        So you’re just going to ignore the soaring number of cases and deaths in the UK old boy? Things are bad here but numbers don’t lie clown man. Anyway, along as Bozo is ahead in the polls, that’s all that counts. Marvelous.

        1. Papi

          Oh, he’ll ignore anything that doesn’t further his bigotry and racism, count on it.

          It’s what bigots do, isn’t that right, charger?

          (No, he really is my friend Janet)

  7. SOQ

    So the mutant ninja virus now bringing in more restrictions in the south of England- how exactly do they measure infectivity?

    And how are they so certain people are infected with this new strain when the PCR cannot even tell if someone has live SARS-CoV-2 virus or not?

    1. scottser

      Well the other day I learned you can poo, wee and fart out the covid. That never figured in any of the messaging from government. Should we all be wearing nappies now?

      1. Nigel

        Did they laugh nervously and and say ‘Oh well, you caught us out there, we’re just making it up!’

      2. f_lawless

        Dr John Lee (who RTE’s Prime Time had on a few weeks back as a counter-balance to Trinity upstart, Tomas Ryan) was on Talk Radio a few days ago speaking about Covid and the “new strain”:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAJFQtnSVw

        ‘The trouble with the whole Covid saga is that it’s moved to an almost post-rational phase. An awful lot of the things we hear discussed in public and polices that are announced by politicians aren’t really related to evidence,facts and data on the ground..They’re related to assumptions that were made near the beginning of the epidemic about how bad this virus is and the things it would do..but if you make the wrong assumptions, you’ll draw the wrong conclusions..It seems to me the politicians have been doing this for many months now. ‘

        Asked about the “new strain”:

        I think this is an example of psychological operations again.They try to manipulate people’s behaviour by waving a shroud in front of them. This mutant (strain) is a clear example of the government taking a random piece of information and trying to frighten people with it. It’s a disgrace really. I wrote about this in April: This virus will mutate the more it spreads around and the more likely it is to mutate to an easily spread-aroundable version of itself which is less lethal”

      3. f_lawless

        (2nd go)
        Dr John Lee (who RTE’s Prime Time had on a few weeks back as a counter-balance to Trinity upstart, Tomas Ryan) was on Talk Radio a few days ago speaking about Covid and the “new strain”:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAJFQtnSVw

        ‘The trouble with the whole Covid saga is that it’s moved to an almost post-rational phase. An awful lot of the things we hear discussed in public and polices that are announced by politicians aren’t really related to evidence,facts and data on the ground..They’re related to assumptions that were made near the beginning of the epidemic about how bad this virus is and the things it would do..but if you make the wrong assumptions, you’ll draw the wrong conclusions..It seems to me the politicians have been doing this for many months now. ‘

        Asked about the “new strain”:

        I think this is an example of psychological operations again.They try to manipulate people’s behaviour by waving a shroud in front of them. This mutant (strain) is a clear example of the government taking a random piece of information and trying to frighten people with it. It’s a disgrace really. I wrote about this in April: This virus will mutate the more it spreads around and the more likely it is to mutate to an easily spread-aroundable version of itself which is less lethal”

        1. Nigel

          So they’re making wrong assumptions, but they’re also deliberately trying to frighten people. This seems like an odd response to what’s going on in the UK where the new strain has emerged where the goverment has been eager to open up for Christmas and people are already pretty mad at the poor messaging and slipshod response. ‘Most likely’ is also doing a lot of work there, as if the rational approach to a mutant strain of a dangerous virus is to wait and see how many people it kills to ascertain its exact lethality before determining a response.

          1. f_lawless

            I would interpret what he said to mean that whereas one could say wrong assumptions were made in good faith early on when little was known about the virus, it can no longer be said that that the same wrong assumptions are being made in good faith now that more is known.

            Also, from 4 days ago:

            https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55308416

            ‘England’s Chief Medical Officer, Professor Chris Whitty told a press conference there was “no evidence” (new variant of Covid-19) was more dangerous. ‘

            Who to believe?

          2. Brother Barnabas

            “who to believe?”

            who knows…

            but definitely not the idiotic anti-vaxx flat-earthers with hardons for a Great Reset

            those dangerous fools shouldnt even have internet access

          1. Nigel

            So was he fibbing that Christmas was going to proceed, or fibbing about the new mutation that obliged him to go back on his statements that Christmas would proceed? Such psychological games. But poor old UK. It’s going to be rough.

        2. SOQ

          Yes t is quite clearly a psychological operation but the question is why.

          “It is now clear that he and the Government have been guilty of hugely damaging errors in tackling this virus. Are they trying to sustain the panic to avoid being held to account for the damage they have done, That would be criminally irresponsible, given the damage that their actions are causing. But it is increasingly hard to interpret their actions in any other way.”- John Dobinson, Campaign Director of Recovery.

          1. SOQ

            That is the opinion of the Recovery group and I agree with them.

            There are over 1200 variants and no evidence that this one is any more infectious than the others. if there is evidence then what is the problem with making it public?

            That would surely build confidence in the decision?

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