Susan Ryan (right) says she will re-open her Cork city beauty salon
This afternoon.
Further to the arrest yesterday of Christine McTiernan following the re-opening of her beauty salon in Balbriggan, County Dublin…
…Speaking to Neil Prendeville on Red FM, Susan Ryan of Susan Ryan Beauty in Cork city said she had made a “firm commitment” to re-open her salon within the next week.
“When we went into lockdown first we took it on the chin. But there was a plan then.We were told to make our salons safe, and we did that at a huge expense. Fat lot of good it did us,” she said.
Ms Ryan said the country was now in the longest lockdown of any country in the world and was “no better off” for it.
“We were told to flatten the curve, to bring down the curve, but now the Government is saying we have to wipe out the virus. That is never going to happen.”
Munster businesses threaten to flout Covid-19 restrictions and reopen (irish Examiner)
Meanwhile…
Exclusive: Balbriggan Salon owner Christine McTiernan has vowed not to reopen her salon during the current lockdown as part of her bail conditions after she was charged yesterday with Health Act breaches. Full story in today’s Irish Daily Star @IsFearrAnStar pic.twitter.com/GU0KD66uf9
— Nicola Donnelly (@kikid2012) February 25, 2021
Last night: A Terrible Beauty
Meanwhile…
A colleague points out that 20 Gardai, in six cars, were sent to Balbriggan to shut down a woman who opened her hair salon. But Darina Allen gets a nice writeup in the Examiner for largely the same offence.
You don’t play by the same rules, as an “ordinary” person in Ireland. https://t.co/bo0zBvVIJy
— John McGuirk (@john_mcguirk) February 25, 2021
Good times.
Earlier: The Ballymaloe Bubble
Ooooh,
Is this whole thing starting to unravel?
I was just listening to RTE there and they had a spokesperson lad on saying there “was no division in the Government coalition, everything is fine” They agree on everything apparently.
No division?
Just deny deny deny…
This kinda reminds me of “Comical Ali” from the Iraq war.
Remember how he’d be sent onto TV to tell everyone “there are no Americans dogs here” and “the Americans infidels are killing themselves” and behind him there are US troops figuratively repelling off Blackhawk helicopters and coming over the horizon in tanks. :-)
“Everything is fine – go about your business”
Good times
Yeah, looks like a just enough idiots will go and ruin things for everybody… good times indeed…I look forward to another year or two of restrictions because similar to Christmas, both the government and certain sectors of the public bottled it at an important moment
And it goes without saying that it’s similarly fantastic that this will of course impact the most vulnerable in society and that we will waste even more money on supports etc… So, yeah we’ll just have everything on fire like Iraq for the craic
I hope you all have a nice 5KM to wander around
Yup
I wonder what percentage of the population aren’t following the rules?
1%, 2%, 10%, 40%? Maybe even more
If that percentage hits 51% – does it then stop being “idiots ruining it” and just become “the will of the people”?
Let’s find out… eh?
Idiots are idiots regardless of numbers…. and while the will of the people should prevail, but it does not mean they are correct.
I’d also add that since we have a PR system and elected government, we collectively agreed on the 160 people who make our laws for the next couple of years… and if you don’t like them try to vote them out. Personally, I don’t like them, I didn’t vote for them, but that how the country works (or doesn’t work depending on your point of view).
If you equate government incompetences with the nature of reality – ie. the government is awful therefore Coivd and lockdown are a hoax or government is awful therefore I’m going to do what I want even though it puts other people and the wider economy at risk… then… frankly… you are part of the problem
Idiots are idiots regardless of numbers…. and while the will of the people should prevail, but it does not mean they are correct.
I’d also add that since we have a PR system and elected government, we collectively agreed on the 160 people who make our laws for the next couple of years… and if you don’t like them try to vote them out. Personally, I don’t like them, I didn’t vote for them, but that how the country works (or doesn’t work depending on your point of view).
If you equate government incompetences with the nature of reality – ie. the government is awful therefore Coivd and lockdown are a hoax… then… frankly… you are part of the problem
I’m sure you look spiffing in a yellow vest
Well I don’t think that anyone here would say that covid was “a hoax”
A gross overreaction maybe – but not a hoax.
Anyway back to assumed percentages…
If let’s say that only 1 – 3% of people aren’t following the rules. And that 1-3% has let to covid ripping through our society killing thousands.
Then just how the hell do we hope to fight it? If such a small percentage can cause that level of damage.
Personally I think the percentage of people who have stopped following “de rules” is much higher.
But what do I know – I only know what I see and some people here on BS get annoyed when I talk about my friends opinions. :)
Some countries have ripped the proverbial “band aid” off (or not at all) and we seem to be slowly pulling away at it – as each hair after hair is slowly reefed from its root, in an an agonising public display of sadomasochism.
Yay Ireland
You have testing , tracing, isolation, quarantine where necessary…. it’s not rocket science, other countries do this, it works, that’s the reality of the situation we’re in, any other method is at best a fantasy at worst a total denial of reality. t’s not about how slow or fast you exit lockdown, its what you do when you open up.
Europe, North and South America, Middle East – totally mucked it up, and are continuing to do so even after 3 attempts to get it right! By solely concentrating our energy on vaccination and an ineffectual half effort of protracted lockdown we are prolonging this whole situation way more than it ever needed to be… and thus creating the overreaction, destroying civil society, and wasting billions of all of our money…. and the longer we denied reality – whether it’s 1 % or 90% denying reality – the longer some form of this muppertry will drag on. Europe as a continent (sorry if you’re offended by this comment Charger, but the UK really helped us keep pace with the death rate in the US, because it’s governed by a scumbag Haystack!) and the US have about the same number of deaths… it’s pathetic….
It doesn’t matter if one person or 10 billion people think this is correct or or not, it’s like gravity – it’s real and it does it’s thing without any concern for your opinion or mine, or the opinions of your friends or mine
So let me get this straight @ce?
I doesn’t matter how many people don’t want to do this anymore 51%, 60%, 90% – even 99%.
At the end of the day, they’re all idiots and they have to abide by the rules.
Ummm… are ya sure you don’t want to get fitted for that Yellow Vest yourself?
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“I’m not a fascist, I’m a priest. Fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas… priests… More drink! (Yaay!)”.
FT
Yes – it does not matter how many people believe the earth is flat.. or to put it another way, the number of people who believe or do something does not make it correct or incorrect
People are supposedly grown ups and can decide their own actions (good or bad)… but all actions have some manner of consequence (good and bad) or… to put it another way… I don’t think you should follow rules because they are rules, you should follow them if you think or know they are correct …
again, if you make the incorrect choice you have to accept the consequences, and in this case I’m afraid the incorrect choices we have made so far and continue to make, are prolonging this nonsense and make a mockery of the idea that we can protect the vulnerable.
@ce
Again, your trying to conflate people who have a different opinion than you (like me) with ‘flat-earthers’ – please stop. It’s disingenuous at worst and egotistical at best. I’m neither a flatearther nor a yellow vest person.
Anyway,
The correct or incorrect choice is not certain in this situation. You seem to think the solution we’re in is the correct one. It may not be…
If the long term consequences of our actions is that more people, more younger people in fact will die, then surely the right thing to do is stop restrictions now?
As the economy gets further and further in to the poo, we will invest less and less in the HSE in the future and this will lead to more diagnoses and treatment of serious disease being missed.
Leading of course to more deaths in the long run
We are borrowing at an incredible rate and if this is going to continue, how will people be able to work to actually fund the HSE through their taxes?
We are robbing Peter to pay Paul…
…and Peter is 17 and stuck in his house and has had a year of interruption to his young life.
If he stays in and avoids all risks, then he’ll probably be safe.
But he won’t have a life
The governments and many of the citizens of the the US, Europe (Continent not EU Charger before you get your knickers in a twist) South America, and most of the Middle East are denying the reality of the situation we are in, we might as well believe the earth is flat too.
There is no perfect solution to this, but there are countries that are doing so much better and who we could learn from, but refuse to do so, because we are either lazy or arrogant – that make us, collectively, idiots… and while we may not be able to say what is right, there are definitely wrong choices being made all of the time.
We could have had very few restrictions, a functional domestic economy, gigs, pubs etc. with the occasional localised lockdown – but we made the wrong choices and continue to do so. We will continue to pile on the debt whether we have no restrictions tomorrow or from July. If we had no restrictions tomorrow – with the current laughable system of public health, test and trace, and no quarantine, and our systemic limitations that assure it is impossible to ‘protect the vunerable’ – our hospitals will be full again in three weeks…
By June we might have a chance of opening up slowly – but people are deluded if they think we’re out of the woods before 80% of the population are fully vaccinated… and fingers crossed that some awful variant doesn’t completely mess up our already idiotic strategy, or make previous non-vulnerable groups very vulnerable.
I feel terrible about everybody under 30… everybody in general… but especially younger people – I agree that we are robbing them of a future… but that’s because we made the wrong choice last March, the wrong choice in September and the wrong choice in December, and continue to make the wrong choice. Whether we agree with it or not or drop the restrictions tomorrow or in June or September etc. – beyond the debt we are leaving them and the lost houses that could have been built over the last couple of months – they will be in a world in which their opportunities to travel, work abroad, etc. etc. will be limited for the next couple of years.., we’ll argue about the rights and wrongs of vaccine passport, and the airline and the rest of the world will say ” we don’t care, get one” – that’s the world we are giving them because we refused to take the hard decisions and deal with an infectious disease in the appropriate way… Anger is fine, once you can direct it and make a change … anger that burns down your own neighbourhood is not so smart…. I think we’re heading for the latter
The reality is that you talk about it like it’s the plague.
It’s not
It’s fatal to a very specific group of people.
We need to get out of this mess before it really starts to kill people that have a future.
We’re in the longest lockdown in the world because we are the dumbest people in the world.
We’re reasonably smart people the problem we have is our fondness of alcohol and the craic.
The craic is a variable other countries don’t have to contend with.
I remember being young and friends of mine being indignant at pubs closing after 9-11 happened, that’s our outlook in this country, nothing should ever stop the craic and Covid has been no different.
Nobody is spreading it getting their hair cut or going to the gym, but it’s spreading like wildfire in GAA club bars having hush hush parties with up to or over 100 attendees around the country all through this crisis.
Intelligent people acting like cretins. Pretty apt summary of Irish life in general.
Pubs shut for a day. Friday 15th September 2001
I remember people going mad getting cans in because the pubs were closing. 3000 people died in New York but the real tragedy was people in Ireland having to drink in their gaffs for one night.
the craic factor is huge alright. Christmas gone proves that. Everyone collectively decided to ‘park covid’ for the holidays. To the extent that we ended up with the most severe transmission rate in the world. The gov. didnt help at all with that, when challenged about opening up for Christmas and allowing free travel between Ireland and the world, Sean O’Brien TD snapped at the radio host “people deserved to have some kind of a Christmas after everything” .. now that’s not thing to think that as a common member of the public, but when TD’s are saying it, it shows that incompetence runs deep. Michael Martin defending allowing GAA games said “GAA is in our DNA” .. again, showing utter negligence to the facts we have to face, and instead trying to pander to voting bases. I think the people having house parties, big GAA celebrations etc., are to blame, and so are the Gov. who don’t take proper actions. From top to bottom, we are not prepared to handle this. In leadership and in ranks.
BS quoting Ganley’s shill, McGuirk of Grift Media aka Youth Defence Times? New depths plumbed.
Where is Susan Ryan getting the idea Zero Covid is being pursued? Time and time again, it has been clear Zero Covid is not and simply cannot be achieved.
Keep on grifting.
You might want to let Tomas Ryan, and all of the media outlets that repeatedly invite him on, know this.
McGuirk is put on for his predictable sweaty Trumpy performative indignation and outrage. I don’t think he cares (although he does for some reason like to cuddle with Youth Defenders over their take on abortion) but what he ironically most enjoys is generating more outrage and chaos. Not a fan of truth or reality – probably regards it as boring.
Be all that
N’ all that
The lad isn’t wrong about how the Ballymalloe crowd get the Lovvie coverage
And these other ladies are taking a hiding
PRone anyone?
+1 Did you see Ben Gilroy scurry off like a rat when the cops arrived for that woman in Balbriggan? Of course when all was clear, Gilroy live-streamed her plight from a safe distance from the Garda Station. Where do you think McGuirk will be if Susan Ryan falls foul of the law?
Re the first lad you mentioned, no I didn’t see what he did next
nor would I be likely to follow up an any activity he gets upto unless I was obliged to
but I would say that the lady herself would have appeared to have shown him and his arguments up for being as useful to her as a used tissue
pledges not to reopen pretty much says t’was a load of … Bulls Motions
and did her eff all good
As to the other lad you named
I’ve no intention of drawing that crew and their connections & fans around here on me
If I can help it anyway
I fell into a self inflicted rage trap when clicked on loolah McGuirks tweet comments but it balanced out when I was made aware of AA Gills review of Ballymaloe.
McGuirk and his Youth Defence outfit Grift (not that he’ll claim any links yet who else is behind Grift but the shadowy Niamh Ui Bhriain of wife-swopping sodomite heritage). All Grift wants to do is to create chaos but for folks like Susan Ryan fall foul of the law, you won’t find Grift there to give her any help. McGuirk will simply find another “story” to twist and use for a Grifty smoke and mirrors troll.
I know.
You’ve told us three times in this thread alone how much you hate McGuirk.
Here’s a tip.
Don’t read Gript.ie if you’re that easily offended.
And growing up might help a tad too.
Physician heal thyself!
The ease at which you diagnose a problem in others that you yourself display to quite a virulent degree.
Grow up indeed.
The neck! Guffaw. From anyone else!
What’s next – GiggidyGoo telling me I need to be “nicer”.
Ah for beck sake. You’re back. And STILL courting Giggidy Goo.
He/she really let you have a nice length of line the last time, and ever so slowly reeled you in. In the process you made a real eejit of yourself.
Your every waking hour must be dedicated to Goo. Are you living such a sad existence?
Get help.
Hi Giggidy! ROFL.
Funny, no sign of your alias over the past few weeks until now.
Apologies- just saw your name Giggidy but I didn’t read the obviously abusive content.
Nor, is Boxy going anywhere.
Sorry about it, hun!
If you did seek some help, then it’s advisable that you contact them post haste before you relapse completely. It’s not good for you. Just do it. You’ll thank me.
giggz, you do realise how utterly transparent this is, yes?
just curious
So you think I’m Giggidy Goo? That’s very funny. I’m not. I have been following BB’s case for almost two months though and feel he could do with some advice. I won’t give up on him.
And now that I think of it, the double B resonates in a transparent fashion.
heh
you got me! I’m bitnboxy and benblack and bertie blenkinsop
and i/we would have got away with it if you hadn’t come along
crafty little bugger
Touché
ROFL!
Oh this is good.
Mick has stirred up a hornets nest. He’s actually a bit late though, as the Bpox surfaced a few days ago.
He’s right though.
Surprised though in Brother Barabbas thinking McCabe is me. I only use one name here. Hopefully like the Brother.
Nice to be in so many peoples thoughts though.
not your best work, giggz!
Seriously now BB? Do you think I use another identity here? Have a look back over the past 3 years or so, and tell me why you even think why i’d use one. I’m well able to take care of myself with one name, and the likes of the Double-Bbarreled troll is easy meat.
As for Mick McCabe – it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he has an alter ego here, but it ain’t me.
Small business has been closed down, but every multinational in the country is working full blast, with hundreds of people beavering away in these facilities. Strange no?
Most small shops have only 5or 6 customers at a time but they can’t open but Amazon can ,with a few hundred working together no problem .making loads money while out small shops go out of business .I agree with you .Book shops and small independent shops should be allowed open now .
This is what amazes me.
Everyone going around blaming each other for spreading the disease – it’s the anti-maskers, it’s the guys having parties, it’s the whoever…
No one looking at all the businesses open (as you both say) possibly employing thousands on site. People scratching the heads as to why the case numbers are so high compared to the first lockdown.
Intel for example has been open throughout all this. How many folks are out in those FABS? Thousands
Could it possibly be the people working that are spreading it?
Nope – it’s the people the government and RTE have told us are to blame.
I’ve lite to no time for the Ballymaloe crowd but there is a difference in the course attendees and the Salon clients… in that the course attendees were in isolation before and for the duration of the course where as the salon clientele were not…. Yeah, no?
Happy to be corrected on this.
Happy to correct you am I. In fact, the attendees were living in a disused cattle truck parked down a nearby boreen, where they engaged in nightly orgies of drinking dancing and very close personal contact. They staggered into class every morning with the sole purpose of inventing cures and tonics for the shakes and nausea brought on by overuse of cheap liquor and self-raising flour. Salon Society it was not.
Yeah – I think it’s fine.
But only because I think it all should be fine – open up everything, protect the vulnerable etc – you’ve heard it all before from me ;)
But to play the aul devil’s avocado here – the only way the quarantine would work is if after their two weeks quarantine they went straight to the cooking school to stay there.
They’ve been in Irelande since Jan 7th. So the second they stepped outside that quarantine door they became as much of a risk as the rest of us.
Unless they’ve been under quarantine for 7 weeks? I doubt it.
Personally I look forward to more “celebrities” thinking that the rules don’t apply to them over the next while- it’s gonna be some craic boi.
How that place is allowed to stay in business with a convicted paedophile employed on the grounds?
I’m waiting on the pear to go shaped this weekend
the weather is looking very settled and very decent up until Monday next at least
I think the compliance will go out the window
and wouldn’t be atall surprised if Cark lead the way….
The disease is difficult to control if not aggressively and proactively suppressed: Our experience to date, has highlighted the difficulty of effectively arresting and reversing the trajectory of the disease and preventing transmission to vulnerable groups once community transmission becomes widespread. At high levels of transmission, testing and contact tracing simply cannot contain the disease, and more blunt population-wide measures become necessary. We have also learned that it is extremely difficult to maintain incidence at moderate levels. Experience shows it can accelerate quickly if it is not aggressively and proactively suppressed. The importance of keeping case numbers low and taking early, proactive action if the profile of the disease deteriorates significantly cannot be overstated.
yeah yeah yeah but what’ll happen once Fine Gael FM is sold?
‘This has been a Party Political Broadcast on behalf of the FGers”