Last night.
Voting on measures to deny access to pubs and restaurants to the unvaxxed.
Carried 74 to 68.
Missing:
Marc Macsharry FF
John McGuinness FF
Willie O’Dea – FF, (unwell according to Irish Times)
Robert Troy FF
Ciaran Cannon FG (recovering from accident)
Alan Dillon FG
Helen McEntee FG (on maternity leave)
John Paul Phelan FG
Michael Ring FG
Roderic O’Gorman Green
Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire SF
Aodhan O Riordan Labour
Holly Cairns Social Democrats (paired with Ms McEntee)
Cathal Berry Independent
Matt Shanahan Independent
Thomas Pringle Independent
Anyone?
Meanwhile…
Last night.
Taniste Leo Varadkar describes the legislation as ‘imperfect’ as hundreds gathered outside the Convention Centre, where the Dáil was sitting.
Last night: Not In Our Name
Meanwhile…
Lisa Chambers 29 Jun: Govt "made the wrong decision to proceed with a plan to allow only fully vaccinated people back to indoor hospitality"https://t.co/qiaaD87CGV
Tonight: Criticised people who voted against "& to rhyme of lots of kind of random reasons around civil liberties" pic.twitter.com/lKKOYGzbnU— Paul Adbopa (@adbopa) July 14, 2021
Um.
I personally do not understand this. any worker in a senior position earning €100k + bens turns up for work when there’s a fire to deal with
end of
there is an ideal opportunity here to find out why not
Law makers, law breakers.
UDHR, Nuremberg Code, EU Resolution 2337 (2020), Constitution of Ireland
“Ireland is different”
Missing. But never forgotten. Their names will forever be remembered for not even being present at one of the most important times in state history since independence.
There may be one or two genuine excuses in there but in the main- cowards.
Slieveens.
Not every TD turns up for every vote – I would have thought that a journalist of many years’ experience would know this.
Ciaran Cannon, for example, was a hit by an SUV while cycling his bike a few days ago – I don’t think that he will be turning up for many votes in the near future.
Rob, there’s 16 missing TD’s on that list, lets account for the 3x we know of for whom it was clearly out of the question
I’d like to know what the other 13 missing TD’s on that list (including a couple of high profile ones who made specific highly public interventions on this specific issue) were doing?
It’s a reasonable question given they work for me
It’s called ‘pairing’ – a government TD will agree with an opposition TD to both not turn up for a vote/all votes on a particular day. It allows TDs to be absent from the chamber on committee business or meetings or whatever – perfectly normal. It would be a waste of time for every TD to turn up for every vote just for the government to win every time.
Weren’t most of the missing ones not going to vote with the government anyways? Or are you peeved off that they did not put their names to that?
Normally there’s a pairing policy I think, where if someone intends to vote no, and someone who intends to vote yes they will “pair off” if an individual can’t attend for some reason. Which would explain most of it.
are these pairing arrangements published somewhere?
there’s 13x so for starters that doesn’t seem to make sense entirely (as in it’s an odd number)
but getting to the point here, who paired off with MacSharry?
Informal I think, but still give majority etc.
This government is awful, obviously, and will possibly kill us all, but in principle, if you want to reopen before the population is fully vaccinated (to say 80% of adults) then it’s going to have to be restricted. You can’t roll out a massive vaccination campaign and then pretend the vaccinations dont matter or are irrelevant to people’s health and safety in places of work, but you appreantly can pretend to find the reopening of society even before full vaccination to be an exercise in fascism, apparently, so what do I know?
Restricting and dividing sociey when the vulnerable are all vaccinated is acting “like the vaccine doesn’t matter”. Long Covid and the young the garbage they’re now selling.
Except the policy and arguments have never been to just vaccinate the vunerable (since not all the vulnerable CAN be vaccinated and vaccines reduce risk drastically, but do not eliminate it) but to vaccinate most of the population to acheive herd immunity. Thatr’s the policy. Partially reopening before that’s been acheived is a concession, and can only be done with restrictions.
Wouldn’t mind but McSharry is always blowing out of his blowhole about this, that and McAvity’s cat.
Didn’t holly cairns pair up with McEntee for the maternity leave?
I believe so. That’s normally how things are done. It’s unfair to list her here anyway (along with the independents) as she never was going to vote with the Government in the first place. However, seeing as this site doesn’t do fair or rational debate (anymore) I’m not surprised she is listed.