27 thoughts on “On Call

  1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

    I’d be interested to know which HSE staff can’t get vaccinated and why not as there doesn’t seem to be any knowledge of these exceptions for the general public

    1. SOQ

      I have just been searching for that Janet and the only thing I can find is people who have sever allergic reactions to any of the components. Except, the only way you will know you have such an reaction is if you come into contact with the component before.

      I did read somewhere that people who had a history of hepatitis were advised not to have it but I can’t find that right now.

      1. goldenbrown

        It’s the components

        the inoculators have epipens to hand and ideally want you to sit tight for 30 mins

        years back I nearly crashed the car proper wipeout style after starting a course of stuff I can laugh now but it wasn’t good at the time I can assure ya

  2. freewheeling

    “only doing their job”, a.k.a. the Nuremberg Defense, i.e. they know they’re participating in a criminal act

    1. andrew

      The main category is anyone with a history of certain allergies, which would obviously include lots of HSE staffers. Some of the components can provoke an allergic reaction: things like polyethylene glycol, and a related molecule called polysorbate that are in the Pfizer vaccine. The Moderna vaccine also contains PEG, and the AZ vaccine contains Polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier that you get in lots of vaccines including the influenza vaccine that was given to irish schoolkids last year).

      Good news is that, unlike lots of other medicines and some vaccines, none of the vaccines approved for use in Ireland contain egg proteins or latex. This would have excluded lots of people. And could actually have derailed whole target of herd immunity,

      1. Mr T

        Except herd immunity isnt achievable even with 100% vaccinations – this virus is too infectious and the prevalence of breakthrough infections is too frequent – the virus can sustain itself through a population with repeat infections of vaccinated people.

        Also numerous animal reservoirs – unless we vaccinated all our cats & dogs and wild deer and cows

        1. SOQ

          Given that people can still contract and transmit SARS-CoV-2, herd immunity will happen despite of, not because of vaccines.

          Vaccines have already have been accepted as not having the same longevity as post infection- hence the need for reoccurring booster shots. If people still have natural immunity to SARS1 near twenty years later, there is no reason to assume anything different this time around.

          1. SOQ

            Why is it that the fear mongers will not accept that this is a virus from the corona family and that it will have similar if not the same behavioural characteristics?

            One is a durative of the other- hence the similarity in the names.

          2. E'Matty

            @ Andrew “No other reason other than science.” eh, what science do you think supports your position? Please tell us why you believe SARS-COV2 sufferers will not enjoy the same levels of post infection immunity previously experienced by SARS-COV1 sufferers? Where’s your “science” for this?

          3. K. Cavan

            Andrew is clearly a troll, acting like a playground bully, SOQ. Without the ability to actually address your argument, he resorted to empty, meaningless insult.
            While it would continue to be devoid of meaning, his response could be applied to almost any comment, about almost any subject, it’s just noise.
            Like seriously?

  3. E'Matty

    And the coercive methods to force the whole population to receive these vaccines marches on. Given patients can be infected by a vaccinated person just as easily (same viral loads in their nasal area and throats according to the CDC), why are we treating the unvaccinated like they are ebola spreaders and the vaccinated as completely immune? Neither is the correct view on either. The difference in risk level to others between the two is minsicule, if it exists at all.

    1. SOQ

      Absolutely- it defies logic.

      That vaccinated people MAY be less of a risk falls down on how much less of a risk. Is it half? Is it quarter? And, if vaccinated are at low risk of getting seriously ill then why are they ones being protected by passports?

    2. Micko

      “why are we treating the unvaccinated like they are ebola spreaders and the vaccinated as completely immune?”

      Good point Matty, Hmmm… I’m gonna go with – coz it’s a religious now.

      You have to BELIEVE in it for it to work.

      Remember the “4 F’s”

      #ForUsAll
      #ForTheGreaterGood
      #FollowTheScience
      #FarmTheUnvaccinated

      Wait, wait sorry… that last one is from 2023. #Spoilers ;)

  4. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

    I had a procedure there last week, while waiting to stop shaking with a glass of water both members of staff told me not to worry about my mask as they were both vacinated.
    I have to say the on the ground staff are much more humane, my partner was also allowed stay with my baby while I had emergency surgery,
    I feel there’s a lack of awareness of the people making decisions and what actually happens in real life,
    it’s all incredibly arbitrary.

  5. ce

    People shout – but most Covid seriousl illness and deaths are old people in old aged homes

    People shout – protect the elderly

    People who work in homes are told to take a vaccine to protect the elderly and avoid unnecessary/avoidable illness and deaths in old aged home

    People shout Nazis

    People smart

    1. E'Matty

      please explain and evidence your claim that being vaccinated helps a person working in this environment to protect the elderly? The CDC states clearly that both the vaccinated and unvaccinated hold similar viral loads in their nasal area and throat making them equal virus transmitters. What protection do you believe them being vaccinated affords?

  6. K. Cavan

    Lets talk, like, Science.
    In Virology, Immunity has a specific meaning, it’s nothing like “immunity from prosecution”, for example.
    Should they come in contact with enough live virus, all vaccinated persons, all previously infected persons & all unvaccinated persons will becoming infected.
    Infection cannot be prevented, once enough virions enter your body & land the right way up, on the right cells.
    Once infected, everyone has a similar probability of transmitting the infection to others, in reality, the “viral load” stuff is mostly a red herring, the severity of the disease itself is far more important. Ebola is an unsuccessful virus because it kills very quickly, Coronaviruses & Rhinoviruses are far more successful because their symptoms are rarely severe, so infected people are up & about, busily transmitting them.
    If you have Immunity & become infected, your Immune System detects & reacts to the infection faster. If you don’t have immunity, your Immune System still detects & reacts & over 99% of the time, still fights off the infection.
    Your Immune System has evolved to protect you, just you & the idea that it can protect others is simply a Far Right Conspiracy Theory.
    The unrelenting drive to force & coerce people into accepting dangerous, yet apparently ineffective, non-innoculation “vaccines”, especially on the basis of protecting others, has been given one clear explanation, by Bill Gates, when he claimed that the “Climate Emergency” can be ameliorated by:

    “…reducing the world population by 10-15%, if we do a really great job with new vaccines, reproductive health services & healthcare”

    He probably didn’t mean what he said, though, right?

  7. Martina

    That looks like a doctored letter. I don’t believe any nursing agency would use the phrase “ don’t shoot the messenger “ and other wording in there isn’t very believable in my opinion.

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