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Last Friday night, Brendan O’Connor spoke to Ryan Tubridy on the Late Late Show about the level of services for children with a disability in Ireland.

He explained that, under Irish law, every child is supposed to have an assessment of needs within six months but that only a third of children in Ireland are actually getting that assessment within the statutory timeframe.

He also said, at the end of 2015, 15,000 people were waiting for an assessment of needs – up 20% from the year before. He said some have to wait two years.

Further to this…

Diarmaid Twomey writes:

Last Friday night’s appearance by Brendan O’Connor on The Late Late Show has got huge media attention in recent days. During the course of his interview, Brendan, who has a daughter living with Down Syndrome, was at pains to point out the plight of children living with disabilities in Ireland, and the lack of services available to them and their families.

While the portion of the interview dedicated to his experience and insight was extremely powerful, and no doubt resonated with families the length and breadth of Ireland, I couldn’t help feeling that an opportunity had been lost after watching it.

Too often in Ireland, when we are confronted with injustice and inequality, we are content to simply pay lip service to the particular issue, pontificating briefly, before ultimately moving on, without ever trying to understand how we can make changes in order to alleviate the issue.

Unfortunately, Friday night was no different, in my opinion.

Ireland is unique in so many great ways, however, one of the unique aspects of our collective character that has consistently frustrated me is the hypocrisy of our attitude to politics, and our perceived inability to recognise how our interactions with politics affects vulnerable people.

We are experts at decrying the lack of availability of quality services, however, what we rarely seem to highlight is that it is us, the Irish people, that put in place the politicians that preside over the provision of these services.

If we are truly serious about creating a fair society where the children with disabilities that Brendan spoke so passionately about are not left wanting and waiting for services, we need to recognise that it is not the politicians that are the problem, it is us.

We need to embrace our responsibility as citizens of our democracy, and develop a more intellectual response to such negligence.

Twenty minutes exposure to such an issue on primetime television is all well and good, but ultimately it changes nothing. Governments shape policy. Are we voting for policies or personalities at the ballot box?

While the latest general election showed some shift in voting patterns, the resounding victory for the ‘independent’ politicians of Ireland is unlikely to make any difference. The idea of an ‘independent’ politician sounds great in principle, but the reality is quite different.

Disability services in Dublin don’t get votes in Kerry or North Tipperary. After all, it’s no coincidence that drink driving laws for the back roads of Kerry, Casino proposals for Tipperary, and God’s influence on the weather, garnered infinitely more impassioned posturing among our rurally based ‘independent’ TD’s, than the plights of disabled children throughout Ireland.

The shovel of tarmac reigns supreme in the land of the ‘independent’ politician.

Of course, it would be unfair to single out and castigate the people of Kerry and Tipperary in isolation. Ireland re-elected Fine Gael, and in doing so, we have placed Ireland’s childrens’ well-being in the hands of a party that ideologically values tax cuts over investment in public services.

At one point during Friday’s interview, Brendan asked the audience to get behind the new government, ironically omitting the fact that if Brendan, or you, or I, support Fine Gael, then by default we support the idea of lower taxes over increased and adequate supports for disabled children.

That’s not Opposition speak, that is reality, a reality I was surprised was lost on Brendan.

We get the politicians and society we deserve. Unfortunately for vulnerable children and those without a voice, they too live with the consequences of our decisions and ideologies.

But this goes beyond politics. One thing that has always struck me when debates around the need for increased services take hold is the contradictory nature of our aversion to tax rate increases.

During these debates, we often hear comparisons being made with more developed social and health systems in other nations, predominantly the Scandinavian ones. However, we rarely hear about the level of tax they pay to fund their progressive societies.

Since the establishment of our state, elections have been won off the back of promised goodies.

These goodies almost always take the form of tax cuts, and every single time the allure of the extra few bob seems too good to resist. We don’t want the USC tax, so its offered up in exchange for votes.

We decried the increase in VAT, so it’s tinkered with to “boost business”. We marched on the streets against water charges, and the newly elected government capitulate.

Anyone who dares to mention the need for corporations to contribute a bit more, or even just pay the actual rate of 12.5%, is labelled a lunatic and silenced. We seem removed from the reality of the need for substantial taxes in order to have high quality services.

No one likes paying tax, and very few of us seem to trust our politicians with the tax we do pay. But the reality is we are electing the politicians we blame for putting vulnerable children in such dire circumstances and we control the tightening public purse strings.

We are the ones who take to the streets in opposition to the introduction of new taxes, yet feel we show solidarity with vulnerable children by tuning into the Late Late and experiencing anger for twenty minutes.

We can’t have it every which way.

As well intentioned and genuine as the anger is following Brendan’s appearance on The Late Late Show, anger just isn’t enough. Action is what is required. Improved services need more resources to deliver. Increased resources demand larger contributions by all of us.

Sadly, until Ireland develops a social conscience at the ballot box, and accepts the need for higher taxes to care for all of her children, I believe that history is destined to repeat itself.

In years to come, the pages of our history will be littered with the scribbles of impassioned cries for help. Brendan himself eluded to this. Many cries will be noted. Our actions will decide if they are heeded.

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Wednesday, May 18.

On RTÉ One at 9.35pm.

Brendan O’Connor’s new series, Cutting Edge, will begin.

Alan, of Mind the Gap films, writes:

Each week, Brendan O’Connor will be joined by three regular panelists to cut into the week’s news from Ireland and around the world, in the style of a darkly comedic post mortem.

This g show will feature the big news stories, alongside the colourful nuggets that may have escaped the public’s attention.

As with all the best discussions there will be some good laughs and some fierce disagreements as the winners and losers of the week come under the penetrating gaze of the panel. This show is serious fun.

As for tickets, Alan adds:

We’re offering people the chance to witness the discussions first hand. For a chance to be part of the live audience and see the action at its closest, send us an email at tickets@mindthegapfilms.com. Tickets are free. Audience members must be 18 or over.

Mind The Gap Films

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Labour leadership hopeful Joan Burton appeared on last night’s Saturday Night Show with Brendan O’Connor to set out her stall and attempt to explain Labour’s betrayal of “the most vulnerable in society”.

Joan Burton: “…Simply creating an economy without a society is not enough.”

Brendan O’Connor: “A year ago you spoke about the limits of austerity. I presume you didn’t have this epiphany in the last week?

Joan Burton: “No.”

O’Connor: “If you had acted on this earlier…”

Burton: “Well a government is a collaborative effort. and I think you have to keep putting your ideas forward because obviously in modern politics there’s probably two different views. If you sort of look after very wealthy people and their wealth grows well some of that will trickle down. My view has always been very strongly – and it’s a Labour view – that you build a strong, eh, you build a strong middle class, people at work, people who pay the taxes, pay the PRSI, that keeps the social welfare system going and that  you have to do that, there’s two different…One is building from the middle and the other is top down.”

O’Connor: “But I suppose the middle didn’t feel that ye were doing that. There were a lot of broken promises there and Joan really people felt terribly betrayed by you  because you said certain things and you made certain promises and that was all gone.”

Burton: “I think what a lot of people felt and said to me was a sense of disappointment and ‘not this time’ and certainly I think the Labour party going into the last election made promises that the economic situation just didn’t allow us to do.”

O’Connor: “But had you not looked into the economic situation before you made the promises not to be smart about it.”

Burton:“Well a couple of things happened. First of all we inherited….you know I was the biggest critic of the bank guarantee because I advised the Labour Party to vote against it which we did. But the reality is once a national government has made a decision turning that around to change that decision, get relief on the bank debt…we’ve got relief now amounting probably to some €30 billion in terms of putting it out long term and getting lower interest rates but we still need the same amount again. That’s the art I suppose  of government aswell as politics. You say this is my goal. Maybe it’s like building a team and if this is team Ireland it’s going to take time to get businesses and people back on their feet. And also as I say the social side, the social investment….”

O’Connor: “On the social side. There was this issue  that was bubbling away probably for a year. It came to a crescendo around the time of the election and it’s finally being dealt with now.  Why didn’t Labour spot the medical cards thing or do something about it? This should have been  a classic kind of Labour core value stuff. The most vulnerable people in our society. It’s an overused phrase but a lot of these people were. How come you let it go as far as you let it go?”

Burton: Well I think we got it wrong and for that I would like to apologise. The notion that anybody who had a long term serious illness like say Motor Neurone disease or parents of a child who had say Spina bifida or a Downs [syndrome]…”

O’Connor: “Did you not see it? Did you not see the all the stories in the papers for the last year? Did you think this was a peripheral issue?”

Burton: “Well remember we had the Troika on our backs for three years and happily they left. And then there started to be a bit of movement. Now I…the taoiseach has said tonight and I want to welcome what he said, that that [medical cards issue] is going to be sorted both in the review in terms of what is going to happen people in the future but also the people who lost the medical cards and obviously I know a lot of people personally who lost them and I have to say I couldn’t quite make out.”

O’Connor:
“And that’s going to be fixed now.”

Burton: “…I, I, I hope it’s going to be fixed. That’s what we’re going to do. We will be talking about it at cabinet on Tuesday. You know for instance in Social Protection there are things which have been very difficult. In this period it’s been hard on different ministers in all levels of the government. At the same time if you go around Ireland we’re building new schools and rebuilding old schools everywhere. So that’s a social success and it puts people back to work.”

Right so.

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“Now on the Saturday Night Show two weeks ago, comments were made by a guest [Miss Panti Bliss, Rory O’Neill] suggesting that the journalist and broadcaster John Waters, Breda O’Brien and some members of the Iona Institute are homophobic. These are not the views of RTE and we would like to apologise for any upset or distress caused to the individuals named or identified. It’s an important part of democratic debate that people must be able to hold dissenting views on controversial issues…

…Now, coming up in part two, could you cope if society collapsed? And we’ll see the cream of upcoming Irish craft design.”

Brendan O’Connor, Saturday Night Show this evening.

Fuppin’ groupthink.

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Previously: Panti’s Back On

Waters, Panti And RTÉ

Michelle Mulherin TD interviewed by Brendan O’Connor on last night’s Saturday Night Show on RTE 1.

Brendan O’Connor: ‘Michelle, were you surprised at the reaction to the use of the word ‘fornication?”

Michelle Mulherin: “I have to say I was, and the reason I was is that in the context in which it was used it made sense. The context in which it was used was a religion context. Basically what I was saying in relation to the word, in using the word was, abortion is murder is sin from a religious perspective but then so is hate, greed and fornication but they’re not crimes. So some things that are perceived from a religious perspective as sin  are not necessarily things we want to criminalise and so on. Why I said that is I just wanted us to take a step back in relation to the whole issue of abortion because it’s twenty years since the X case and it’s a hot topic, it’s a hot topic in the sense that nobody in the middle ground really wants to talk about it. So really it’s controlled by extreme liberals who maybe want abortion ‘on demand’ or whatever or someone who is really religious and has extremely religious views about it. But it’s not a straightforward issue. What I did on the day in question, when this bill was put before the Dail, I just opened up the argument and I also looked at the whole issue of maybe how we have developed in our society. Say, 30 years ago you couldn’t access contraception, a married couple couldn’t get contraception without going to their GP. We had to have a court case over that. Homosexuality was illegal, we know up until quite recently divorce was illegal. All of those things were on religious grounds. We have come forward over a period of time and the world hasn’t ended. Now, it’s not as simple as that either. Because I have my own personal views. I don’t agree with abortion, right.”

O’Connor: “In any case?”

Mulherin: “I accept the X case in the sense that it decided that in a situation where the mother’s life was at risk then in that limited circumstance there could be a termination.

O’Connor: “And only in that limited circumstance?”

Mulherin: “Yes.”

O’Connor: “Can I ask you what you thought, so, of the women we saw in the Irish Times this week and on the Late Late Show last night when they were in a situation where, what’s the term they used, had children that had conditions which were incompatible with life. I didn’t want to get straight down to…I wanted to discuss other issues around it. Do you think the women should have had to travel? It clearly added to their pain a lot at what was obviously a very difficult time for them.”

Mulherin: “Look, I mean that’s an awful hard question to answer. It’s a very, very tough, it is a very, very sensitive issue because there’s hardly anyone who doesn’t have a view on it. But just maybe take a little step back from it and say first of all, in general, when we make laws, it’s hard to make a good law on ‘hard cases’. It generally is hard to legislate for it.”

O’Connor: “Can I just say though, we’re not going to re-run the abortion debate here. This law; there’s lot of hard cases around abortion isn’t there? Do we have to make a law around hard cases in this situation?”

Mulherin: “Well, can you tell me what that law is?”

O’Connor: “I can’t.”

Mulherin: “Pardon? Because I did an interview with somebody else on the radio and at the top of the interview they said that I don’t agree with abortion on demand, OK?  And then later on in the interview the interviewer said ‘well, why should women have to put up with that situation?’ so that’s when I posed the question to him, ‘Where is the middle ground on this? Who gets to decide and in what circumstances?’ Can I just bring it to something else.”

O’Connor: “Is that not what we rely on legislators for? To deal with incredibly sensitive issues like this. To look at the situation of those women say last night and possibly say maybe we’re adding a lot to their pain by forcing them to travel in this situation.’ Is that not what government is about? Finding ways around kind of things that are nuanced and that are difficult?”

Mulherin: “Well, the government to me, when we’re passing laws, we have to talk to people, we have to dialogue, there’s no magic wand in relation to abortion. In fact, you could say that one could never win with the subject. What I’m particularly focused on, let’s have a conversation about, yeah we’ve developed as a society, but there are still a lot of very immature attitudes towards sex.”

O’Connor: “And this is where fornication comes into it then. What did you mean specifically? I know you used the word carefully, for a reason, you didn’t use it casually. What did you mean by fornication when you said it?”

Mulherin: “Well, I meant what the word means. The word means ‘consensual sex between adults who are not married to each other’. That’s what I meant.”

O’Connor: “And do you think fornication is wrong?”

Mulherin: “Do I think fornication is wrong? I don’t think it’s a crime. From a scriptural point of view it is wrong. There is no doubt about it. Whether we like it or not, whether it’s cool or not, fashionable or not’.”

O’Connor: “You, personally, would be against sex outside of marriage, would you?”

Mulherin: “As an ideal I would, but we fall short on ideal cause we’re human, OK? There’s lots of ideals there. This is my point. we have great aspirations as human beings to go for all sorts of ideals. Unfortunately lots of times we don’t make the mark. Now, to talk about practical living and maybe even parking religion, em, in instances, let’s say there are 4,500- 5,000 women who feel that they need to go to Britain for a termination of their pregnancy, now in some of those cases, at least, we can say that there is obviously unprotected sex involved, perhaps casual encounters etc. Now, I’m not a prude, Brendan, or anything like that but, as a woman, you have an awful lot to lose, and getting pregnant could be one of the best things that could happen you. You could get AIDS, you could get some other sexually transmitted disease that you’ll be dealing with for the rest of your life.”

O’Connor: “OK, well I think that’s a separate issue than what we’re talking about here. So the point that you’re making is that you think this is a debate aswel about people being careful when they have sex, yes?”

Mulherin: “Well, well I think that it’s about acknowledging that in some instances, abortion is being used as birth control.”

O’Connor: “You think that people are using abortion as birth control?”

Mulherin: “I think that some people are using it as birth control, yes.”

O’Connor: “From what I know, it seems to be a hugely traumatic thing for a woman to have an abortion and it’s something that affects them for the rest of their life. And I’m not questioning you, but you think that they use it quite casually as a form of birth control?”

Mulherin: “I’m not saying it’s casual, what I’m saying about immaturity towards our own bodily integrity, like, at the end of the day you’ve an awful lot to lose. Why, in this day and age, when we all know so much, it’s not so much that in this day and age we don’t know about the birds and the bees, we don’t know about contraception, we don’t know about condoms etc. We know all of these things. So why other than [when] someone is drunk or they’re getting out of their mind at a particular point in time, why get yourself in that situation in the first place? To me it’s a question of valuing oneself, and actually it’s not like I’m being cruel to other girls. I’m saying to girls and to girlfriends, friends I have here with me, that you know, at the end of the day, the whole push towards abortion and contraception etc. as part of the agenda for feminism, well hold on, it’s the woman who ends up holding the baby, so like if you’re out there and of course you’re going to have sex, you’re going to end up carrying the can, is that really the best you want to hope for for yourself?

O’Connor: “Which is why I suppose that people would say that women should be allowed to make these decisions about the consequences and their own bodies and everything.”

Mulherin: “OK, can I just make one point? I do agree that as we are growing as a society, we get to make choices in relation to our own sexual activity, behaviour and our own sexuality, but, I’m losing my train of thought now.. sorry..’

O’Connor: “From what I’ve been reading about you, if I’m right, what you were going to say is that we’ve got all these choices we can now make about our sexuality, rights etc. You’re very strong on that people should all have responsibilities that go with that, isn’t that right?”

Mulherin: “That’s right, yeah.”

O’Connor: “In a way you feel that society has become a bit permissive, possibly.”

Mulherin: “Well, this is what I think; I think that because maybe for a long time we’ve had excessive religiousness controlling that aspect which is a very personal thing, in a person, that we’ve now, and even now many people think ‘I don’t practice, I’m not Catholic, I’m not whatever, we’re still in the aftermath of it. I believe that entire reasoning in Ireland, it’s part of our legacy, is fundamentally tied up with religion. Therefore, people have gone the flipside. What I’m saying is that, this is here my own faith and my own beliefs come in is…”

O’Connor: “I think it would be only fair to say to people what your beliefs are.”

Mulherin: “OK, as I said to you from the outset, I’m not a ‘Holy Joe’, I’m not a fanatic, I’m a Catholic, I don’t go to mass religiously every Sunday, I go to funerals, funeral masses, things like that, etc.”

O’Connor: “You have to with your job I suppose.”

Mulherin: “You know a lot more people and it’s respect for the circumstances of people. I have had the opportunity to study scripture in an ecumenical situation, involved with Catholics, Presbyterians, and Church of Ireland, where people go together. We’re all traditions in Christianity, so there’s a Catholic tradition and so on, but what I’m saying is this that for me, I’m searching the same as other people, right, and I believe we have a spiritual dimension, and no more than we feed our bodies, we need to feed our souls. We don’t have to, that’s totally our choice, but I think the way that society has gone, we very much tend to value what we see and there is very little beyond that. There’s a cynicism. For me, what I believe and I take great comfort in, we have an inherent value in ourselves, each and every person is individual and each and every person is unique, and I’m not just talking about the unborn child here, I’m talking about the woman who’s perhaps potentially destroying her own life, her family’s life and so on, and even in a situation where we, we now have a high level of suicide in this country. We are not ‘human doings’ we are ‘human beings’ so I’m saying ‘let’s come at it from that point of view and mature as a nation in relation to our attitudes to sex. It’s not extremely one way or extremely another way. But we do respect, I respect, peoples’ sexual behaviour, fornication, call it what you want, that’s peoples’ choice, you know, it may not always be the best thing for them, it may not be the best thing for them to be doing but that’s the nature of Christianity, there’s that freedom, it’s not forcing something upon people.”

O’Connor: “Michelle, we could talk about this all night and I know that there’s going to be a lot more conversations like this over the next while. I think that your position is possibly more nuanced that people might have imagined, and I also think that you’re very brave to come out as you have done, and said some things that are unpopular and not trendy and that people are not going to agree with.’

Mulherin: “Can I say, am I allowed [to say one more thing]?”

O’Connor: “Very quickly.”

Mulherin: “I just want to say that you mentioned about the reaction and was I surprised, I read a lot of articles in papers arising out of my statement and one thing that struck me was that people hadn’t actually read my speech whatsoever, people were reacting emotionally to a word and my view point would be that there is a real liberal agenda there that is a bit upset now because they haven’t got politicians like myself shutting up on account of the clap trap of political correctness. We have to have straight talking, that’s my view.’

O’Connor: ‘OK, well that was certainly some straight talking. Ladies and gentlemen, Michelle Mulherin TD.”

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