A Farrago Of Nonsense


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Front page of the Irish Times last night

‘Lord Haw Haw’ writes:

The Irish Times called it wrong last night. Their story appeared on the front page for today. “Farage predicted Remain would ‘edge it'”. But now there is no sign of the story on the Irish Times website. Surely they should have kept the story online, for archival purposes if nothing else. The Guardian don’t indulge in this type of nonsense. It’s OK to get it wrong. It’s not OK to cover up….


Right so.

Bad day in the Burnaby.

Earlier: ‘Official Ireland Just Got This Totally Wrong’

Previously: IT Online Editor: Why We Removed Kate’s Article From The Irish Times Digital Archive

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50 thoughts on “A Farrago Of Nonsense

      1. rotide

        It ranges from simple typos and factual errors that are corrected to headlines in really bad taste being changed all the way up to articles that are taken down for a lot of reasons.

        1. Nigel

          Inasmuch as Bodger has a point: Broadsheet is not the paper of record, the Irish Times is.

        2. Martina

          The piece about Kenny’s daughter working for the Web Summit during their Remain/Leave debacle was deleted pretty sharpish with no explanation.


          1. Bodger

            Thanks Martina, We were told that we were destroying her life and, while we felt this was a little strong, not to mention heavy, we took it down. To have put up an explanation may have further added to the destruction.

        3. Bodger

          Rotide, the typo policy on the site is to make pride swallowing apologies and we ask readers to report any covert correcting by contributrors. We amend factual errors but don’t record what has been changed. But we probably should. Hope that helps.

          1. Anne

            Funnily enough most people don’t need typos explained.. Not Rotsey though.
            Where they are typos Rotsey sees conspiracies.

            The comments were turned off on one post there recently – on Frank Mullen defending himself against allegations of child sex abuse. Rotsey comes along and is all over every thread before and after, asking what did he miss, why were the comments off? He seems to feel like he’s personally owed an explanation for every editorial decision.. what a muppet.

          2. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            You and Ratsize should get an Hotel room together or something…the rest of us are trying to have a weekend, and the weather is brutal.
            Give us a break, FFS.

  1. Nilbert

    The Times didn’t get it wrong, they reported other people’s inaccurate predictions. Then they replaced the article with something more interesting.

  2. The Real Jane

    Not sure what’s supposed to be so terrible here. They reported what Farage said accurately but it’s not relevant any more, so why not replace it with more up to date information? It’s not like it’s any loss to history to have one less record of something Farage said one time.

    1. Bodger

      The Real Jane, they have removed the story from the online archive. The story was a front page story today. It may save their blushes but it will be tricky and possibly weird for future historians/researchers/journalists tracking down articles that have appeared in the print edition if this practice continues. Harrumph. Everyone got it wrong except Dan Boyle obviously. https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/06/23/exit-stage-left/ Earlier soothsaying https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/02/29/calling-it-3/

      1. medieval knievel

        ‘save their blushes’? you seem to think that the IT themselves called the result wrong. they – correctly – reported that farage called the result incorrectly. i’m scratching my head as to how the IT could be embarrassed by the story?

        1. Bodger

          As someone who pores over old papers and whatnot if they have removed online the article that appeared in the print edition I predict years of uncertainty. A bewildering act of self harm.

      2. The Real Jane

        Yeah I read that they removed it from the archive. I just can’t see why that’s a problem. Stupid man says something inaccurate that had no effect is hardly worth troubling the future generations of Faragists or even Farage historians with.

        I would not expect the Irish Times to remove anything of interest, significance or accuracy but this is none of the above waste of bandwidth stuff.

        1. Bodger

          In my experience I would expect the Irish Times to remove something of interest, significance or accuracy if called upon by people they deem important enough.

          1. The Real Jane

            You think the Irish Times removed this to flatter the future image of His Faragness?

          2. rotide

            please, If Catherine Murphy asked you to take something down, it would be gone quicker than any mention of your publishers name

          3. Bodger

            Thank you Rotide, Not for Catherine. She has never asked. But there were two stories we did remove having being asked. And by asked I mean scary people saying we were ruining young peoples’ lives/futures. The daughter of the Tanaiste Eamon Gilmore being offered a job in the attorney general’s office within weeks of her father appointing the attorney general. And the daughter of the Taoiseach getting a job with the Web Summit when her father’s office was being lobbied by the Web Summit. We are very soft really.

          4. Martina

            The Phoenix publish this stuff all the time, though perhaps lower food chain progeny. The AG connection is in the public interest and should not have been removed IMO.

          5. Lilly

            Rotide, you are such a weasel. If you don’t like the way Broadsheet conducts itself, why the fupp are you always here?

          6. Guy Bague

            “And by asked I mean scary people saying we were ruining young peoples’ lives/futures.”

            @Bodger Publish those solicitor’s letters and be damned.

  3. martco

    think it was super lazy

    the stattos knew there was a problem as soon as that Sunderland return came in and that was really early

  4. Nigel

    Unless they misreported his words they got nothing wrong at all. As for changing the article, Farage being stupid and/or wrong isn’t very newsworthy, though worth recording for something to cry over as the British Isles devolve into another outpost for Immortan Joe. It’d be newsworthy if he said something that wasn’t either.

        1. Guy Bague

          No, we don’t. But remember the Irish Times is all about campaigning journalism. They have an “agenda”. An audit trail of truth is not part of their narrative.

        2. Kieran NYC

          So what about that time you published a ‘false flag’ type story during a French terrorist attack?

          That vanished.

          1. Kieran NYC

            No, the one that analysed the shooting of a policeman in the head and decided he was ‘faking it’.

          2. Shayna

            @ Kieran NYC – To be be fair – Bodger has explained BS policies on posts and comments. I suspect you may be just stirring the pot to see what comes to the surface – (I watch a lot of Cooking channels on TV).

  5. Martina

    Piece should’ve been left up but updated. Farage conceded then rowed back then conceded again. Then went on his victory lap. All on twitter.

  6. Here with what it says in the papers

    The fact of the matter is that there is NO harm in getting something wrong. However, to spare their blushes at calling it incorrectly they have gotten rid of the story to save their journalist’s and editor’s blushes.

  7. Truth in the News

    Given that the English held a referendum that allowed their citizens the
    choice to stay or go, is it not time that the remaining 20 odd nations afforded
    their citizens the same right to decide the their future, the result could prove
    interesting in quite a few states, even in Germany.
    The elite who have taken over control of Europe and rule by “Directives” are
    in for quite a few shocks, they have destroyed what should have stayed a
    “Common Market” and free trade area in the pursuit of super state where the
    ordinary citizen was ignored….indeed it had echoes of royal rule by divine right.

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