Meanwhile, In Dublin

at

This afternoon.

In Dublin city centre.

Thousands of people marched in protest against the death of George Floyd during a police arrest in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, on May 25.

Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin who was filmed kneeling on Mr Floyd’s neck for eight minutes before he died has been charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

Meanwhile…

Previously: Aftermath

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UPDATE:

Meanwhile in Louisville, Kentucky in the US…

Investigation launched into LMPD, National Guard fatal shooting of West End restaurant owner (Courier Journal)

‘My son didn’t hurt nobody:’ David McAtee, Louisville business owner, killed by authorities (Courier Journal)

55 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In Dublin

  1. Cú Chulainn

    The second wave is coming..!!! Will we ridicule this shower as much as the Cheltenham shower..

    1. jamesjoist

      I agree it looks strange but the number of people gathered in Dublin for 3 hours or so is insignificant compared to the 50 thousand who gathered in Cheltenham for 3 days .

  2. Gabby

    I don’t see among those huddled masses any faces remotely resembling JW and GO’D. Covid 19 distance-defiers have different faces, you see.

  3. Zaccone

    These people realise we’re still trying to beat corona right? So much for the gatherings of 4 people like. Where are the gardai in all of this?

    Its not even like we’re in America, so this protest doesn’t actually achieve anything – its an American issue, not an Irish one. So this will just end up spreading the disease, and infecting and killing people, for no reason.

  4. Clampers Outside

    Fair dues to people to make a noise about police brutality, regardless of skin colour…

    but Zaccone is also right, there is element of foolishness with such a gathering. I hope none of them would have been giving out about the horsey set, yet I doubt that.

    1. SOQ

      It is the left wingers who always argued that the lock-down was for the greater good- and then they just throw the rule book out the window when it suits.

      And as for the bloody masks outdoors- give me strength.

      1. Nigel

        It’s an awful pity that policeman didn’t wait til the pandemic was over before putting his knee on a man’s neck for nine minutes.

  5. millie in handcuffs

    This was advertised as a socially distanced protest, as far as I know.

    I applaud the gesture, at the same time as deploring such a mass gathering. Gah.

    1. goldenbrown

      yeah I’m conflicted too

      the concept of a socially distanced protest is just nonsense, the science of this is simply if you’re gonna be shouting and roarin’ with your gob uncovered (as you naturally would be at a protest and is clear from those pics) you’re gonna be spreading your possibly covid infested mouth vapours to those in close proximity to you

      I agree with the message but this protest was plain stupid HOWEVER it was enabled because we’re only in a pretend lockdown now, aren’t we? for the past 2 weeks practically speaking from what I see. as usual in Ireland we somehow manage to achieve something that’s neither one thing nor the other. may as well open all the pubs now and restart EP ‘cos this is a farce.

      1. Paulus

        Yes, you make a lot of sense. There are those for whom Doing the Right Thing is important, and laudable if it achieves anything – though in this case that’s debatable.
        If everyone there today, and many others similarly inclined, were to flood the American Embassy with individual letters of complaint, (as opposed to emails), might it send a more tangible message?

          1. Ringsend Incinerator

            Off you go then with your letters of support Paulus and Clumpers. Use a nice colour with your crayons for Donald.

    2. class wario

      Agreed.

      It is horrifying to see such brutality across the water and feel totally impotent in how to personally act in some way against it. I can’t blame those who felt obliged to do some little act of solidarity today but I wonder about the after effects.

      1. Clampers Outside

        I remember the days when you would call people far-right Nazi sympathisers simply for posting links to Sky News…. Some craic those days, eh.

        Glad to see you’ve come to your senses. Good link btw.

        1. Nigel

          I have never called anyone a far right Nazi sympathiser for linking to to Sky News you absolute dunderhead.

        2. realPolithicks

          I remember the (pre trump) days when you struck a very different tone in your comments on this website.

    1. Enn

      Pretty much constantly via MASI and others. You just don’t pay attention to these things.

    2. NobleLocks

      It’s amazing how these organizations, whose existence is dependent on there being racism in the world, when they go looking for racism, they ALWAYS find it! They must be brilliant at their jobs!

  6. Johnny

    NYC curfew announced today from 11pm-5am crowds of peaceful protesters are already assembling in the five boroughs, well done Dublin and Ireland.

  7. Ringsend Incinerator

    When you start reading the comments on this story you really get how white people are on the Internet.

    1. NobleLocks

      And the irony of that statement is that I bet you don’t get that it’s Racist… lol

  8. Ringsend Incinerator

    Complete support for these folks. As an American citizen I’m proud of how the world (including Liverpool FC) is sending a message to the U.S. in solidarity with a movement most people with a trace of humanity in them can empathize with.

    Go for it bothers and sisters. Leave the mothers-in-laws to their keyboards. FIGHT THE POWER. #BlackLivesMatter #MoreBlacksMoreDogsMoreIrish

    1. JEH

      American as well. I was genuinely shocked to see the numbers turned out in front of the US embassy in London yesterday. I hadn’t realized the protests had spread outside of America, but sure, systemic racism is global after all.

  9. Formerly Known As @ireland.com

    In Australia, a lot of people are correctly vocal about the treatment of African-Americans, while ignoring the face that the same happens to Aboriginal Australians. There have been over 400 deaths in custody, since a commission gave recommendations to improve things on 1991.

  10. SOQ

    https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/06/01/video-shows-officer-pushing-woman-during-fort-lauderdale-protests/

    If I may recall a little life story which involves race.

    When I first moved to London, my landlord Francis was a black guy with dreadlocks. Six weeks later the mammy arrived to inspect how her precious was getting along and Francis called in. I said I need to go to the shop as there was no milk but she grabbed my hand and whispered “don’t leave me with HIM!”

    Next arrived was Francis’s mother- a big Kenyan woman in flip flops who never STFU. It was a new buy and after going to the loo, there was the two mammies hanging curtains. Where is the milk demanded mine- like I didn’t know- off to the shop I was sent.

    Several cups of tea in the kitchen later- alone- mammy Kenya headed off. But she was back, four times in the one week for no real reason that I could see- they even went out shopping together. Hugs and I will look after him when mine was leaving- I was not happy, I moved to get away from the poo.

    I suppose my point is that you need to connect like with like- like the link above. Real people, yes sometimes older- need to get together and talk this through. While the open minded exuberance of youth is great- there is always those who are more than willing to exploit the more (naïve?) binary mind-set.

    Who is doing what remains to be seen but please- lose the friggen face coverings- in open air spaces they serve absolutely no purpose apart from wanting to appear threating and sinister.

    Let the hot heads do their own thing- on their own. Likewise why some posts appear half a day later on broadsheet.ie

    1. SOQ

      As for this virtue nonsense- it is like crying at a funeral: are you crying for them… or for you?

      1. Clampers Outside

        As an aside…
        That funeral question… I learnt about that one when going through a lot of self examination in rehab. I’ve found funerals a lot less of a blubber fest since, and have been way more ready at hand to help others in grief. It’s one change in myself that took me profoundly by surprise… then again I scored 2 out of 10 on the emotional control scale when I first went in… Most average mentally healthy people are around 6 to 8 :)

  11. Harry Robertson

    Id say 99.9% percent of these protesters used their social media accounts not too long ago to condemn John Waters and GO’D for their non social distance gathering. Do as we say not as we do.

  12. Kingfisher

    I think I’m correct in saying Professor Luke O’Neill says it’s almost impossible to catch Covid-19 outdoors? Can’t check on the newly unreadable Twitter.

    1. SOQ

      I think why some people are pee’ed off is because they can’t even give their lived ones a proper funeral and all of a sudden this thing comes along, which doesn’t even have anything to do with Ireland- and the rules seem to no longer apply.

      I would think the Gardaí aren’t too happy with all this either. Why have they spent all these months checking that people are adhering to the travel restrictions to have it all thrown away like this?

  13. Ringsend Incinerator

    GO BROTHERS AND SISTERS. TURN UP THE HEAT.

    Proud to be AntiFa. We are all anti doing FA about this.

    1. NobleLocks

      Antifa? Don’t make me laugh. You mean the entitled left wing facists who push social change via violence (the very definition of Terrorism)?

      MammyFA are just a bunch of cosseted mammys boys looking for a reason to be big hard men and acting like spiolt brats when they don’t get what they want.

      “Turn up the heat” Broadsheet why are you allowing this incitement here?

  14. f_lawless

    I wonder though is any social movement that’s driven by race identity politics doomed to fail in terms of effecting systemic change for the better in the US. A grassroots movement stemming from solidarity along class lines with the goal of breaking up the elite stranglehold on society is a better focus, IMO

    The protests and violence going now will probably lead to further polarisation, ultimately. Maybe it will hurt Trump’s re-election prospects , maybe it won’t, but we can be sure that the alternative candidate, Biden, won’t do much to improve the lives of the oppressed. Look at his track record: instrumental in passing a string of senate bills in the 80s and 90s that led to the mass incarceration of black Americans.

    Like African American intellectual, Cornell West, recently put it, “It looks like the system cannot reform itself. We’ve tried ‘Black Faces in High Places’ . .the BLM movement emerged under a black President, a black Attorney General and black Homeland Security and they couldn’t deliver”.

    1. Enn

      It’s about police brutality, not identity politics. It’s about being murdered in the street and tear-gassed for peaceful protests.

      Not identity politics.

      I really do not understand how you can watch a man die under someone’s knee and think ‘Kill All Normies’ is the tome to explain this mess.

      1. Clampers Outside

        I dont think f_lawless would be in disagreement. I think he’s pointing out that many protesting demonstrably see this as an identity issue rather than a, as you say, which I agree with, it being a police brutality issue regardless of race.

  15. Kate

    It is a crazy world. George had convictions for drug abuse and armed robbery. “Wanted to turn his life around”. That young bricklayer in Cork asphyxiated and battered in 2001 by bouncers mattered but no further action by DPP. The Dail should have been stoned. Lucia o Farrell is still fighting for justice for her son Shane (2011) , –she stands alone outside the Dail. Dignified , brave, heartbroken. Wishful thinking perhaps but we don’t stand alongside our own.

    1. Rob_G

      The fact that in your two examples, one from 10 years ago, and one from 20 years ago, neither of the victims was actually killed by the Gardaí, indicates that we don’t have problems on the same scale as they do in America.

      1. Kate

        Rob. Lucia’s case is ongoing after10 years because the justice system failed her and that was due to garda failures. The case of Patrick Nugent is still in process — and he was killed in 1985. As for the tragic death of George , we will have to wait for the trial for facts –and no matter how disgusting the image of the cop with his knee on George’s neck is- he is entitled to a fair trial. Chokeholds are ugly and thankfully not in british/Irish police training.

        1. Rob_G

          Yes, but the Gardaí’s failure to act resulting in a young man being needlessly killed is not really the same thing as Amercian police routinely killing scores of black men each and every year – so maybe that is why we have not seen protests on the same scale for each issue.

  16. Poordessie

    This will kill people. Full stop. People using the issues in Americay for serial protesters self indulgences that will spread covid and kill more vulnerable people. They should be ashamed of themselves!

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