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Stop doing that.

Karlj writes:

You should put up a select transcript from today’s Liveline [RTÉ Radio 1. The host went off on an angle about this letter (above) in Alive! [Catholic newspaper] and the editor Fr [Brian] Mc Kevitt was able for him.

However each point the priest was made was twisted by Joe Duffy or other callers and it descended into a farce. In particular Joe Duffy questioning Alive! policies and not being able to defend RTÉ licence payers being used to pay 3 producers for a 75 minute show! Fr McKevitt has previous complained to the BAI about Joe Duffy’s treatment….


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Tuesday’s Irish Examiner showing the letter sent by the foster father of Grace to the then Minister for Health Michael Noonan in August 1996

Further to yesterday’s post about Grace, Finance Minister Michael Noonan and barrister Garry O’Halloran’s calls for Mr Noonan to resign…

Two sisters, Bridget and Margaret, spoke to Joe Duffy on RTÉ’s Liveline this afternoon.

They did the interview because a third sister, who has limited speech and poor mobility, lived in the same foster care home as Grace for brief respite periods on several occasions – in 1983, 1987 and 1989.

Bridget and Margaret said their sister, who is now in her 40s, was first placed there by her South Eastern Health Board social worker, when she was aged 12.

At the time, she would have had the mental age of a two-year-old.

The sisters both recalled an incident where the foster parents contacted the sisters’ family, abruptly telling them to take the girl home. When the family went to collect her, the girl was left alone at the end of the foster home’s driveway.

Asked if the sister could have communicated with them, if she had been abused, Bridget said:

“I don’t think so, no. Only through crying and being terribly anxious.”

Margaret explained that the gardai had contacted her 18 months ago to say that “there was a minor complaint made, nothing to worry about.”

Margaret then gave them a statement about the incident in which her sister was left at the end of the driveway.

Then, on December 9, 2015, Margaret received a letter from the HSE saying that her sister would be a part of a Resilience Ireland report.

She also received an apology from the HSE and clarification that a Garda investigation was under way.

Margaret said she cannot get any other details and is facing having to make requests for information under the Freedom of Information Act.

She also made an appeal for other families affected – it’s believed 40 children lived in the foster home – to get in touch.

Margaret said: “If [any other families affected] would like to talk or come together as a support group, I mean we should have been told before it came out in the media really. We should have been informed, we should have been warned. Not hear about our family member in the media.”

Bridget also said that they’d like to hear from the social worker who was working with their sister. She said the HSE hasn’t offered any support or contact with any other families involved because of “confidentiality” reasons.

Bridget added: “And they said it could be a long time before we found the truth out really, you know, and that’s, that’s hard as well to take on.”

Towards the end of the interview, Mr Duffy asked the sisters to articulate what they’re hoping for.

Bridget: “Just, well, we just hope that she, she wasn’t in this situation but we don’t know and just for other families out there, who are feeling the same way as us, if they want to get in contact, we can [be] stronger in numbers really and to just sit down and talk about it. If they’ve got any, any information that could help us…”

Joe Duffy: “And Margaret is a part of you saying, ‘actually maybe we shouldn’t dig?’

Margaret: “No.”

Duffy: “Maybe…”

Margaret: “No. Sure we have all the right to dig.”

Duffy: “Oh, I know that, I know that, I know that, absolutely. But is part of you saying, ‘oh god..'”

Margaret: “Oh of course you’re afraid what you’re going to find out…”

Bridget: “And what do you do with the information when you get it?”

Margaret: “Who’s going to be held responsible for all of this? The HSE? Who?”

Mr Duffy didn’t ask the sisters about the Irish Examiner’s report earlier this week which showed that Grace remained in the foster care home for another 13 years after the foster father – now deceased – sent a letter to the then Health Minister Michael Noonan asking that she be allowed to stay.

The letter was sent after the health board ruled that Grace be removed and after the family lost an appeal against that decision.

Mr Duffy also didn’t ask the sisters for their thoughts on barrister Garry O’Halloran’s calls for Mr Noonan to resign and for Commissioner Noirin O’Sullivan to investigate Minister Noonan.

Listen back in full here

Previously: Grace, Noonan and Monageer

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From top: Health Minister Leo Varadkar at the launch of the Public Health Alcohol Bill this afternoon in the Royal College of Physicians, Dublin;  Some ‘reds’ in Tesco


Minimum alcohol pricing has been established at 10c per gram of alcohol, according to the new bill, which Government say works out at €1 per unit of alcohol.
The minister said the plan is to have the legislation implemented by next summer, but that minimum pricing will come in at same time as in North.
However, Minister Varadkar said he wishes to get his new bill passed by one or other of the Dáil or Seanad before they’re dissolved for elections.
“I’m not particularly concerned about the electoral impact,” he said

*flings empty wine box*

Bottle of wine to cost minimum of €8.63 under new alcohol law (Independent.ie)

Electoral impact?


joe_duffyIf you sell your home at the end of this year YOU are still liable for property tax until November next year.

Yeah whatever

But all is not lost.

Dublin solicitor Caroline Fanning contacted Liveline on RTE R1 this afternoon to tell Joe Duffy about a potential loophole the revenue overlooked.

It may involve throwing a “sickie”.

Caroline Fanning: “I decided to go back and have another look at the Finance Act 2012, which is the relevant legislation – and in that Act, it imposes this tax on people who are deemed to be liable persons, as of the 1st November 2013 – so they are liable for the 2014 tax.
“But if you read on further through that Act, if you look at Section 5.2, Sub Section A2. Sub Section 5.2 says that, ‘A residential property won’t be deemed to be a relevant residential property where the property has been vacated by the liable person for a period less than 12 months.’
“It doesn’t specify if that period is one day, or one hour – it just says less than 12 months – and where a GP is satisfied that that person is unlikely to resume occupation of that property, provided that the property is not occupied by another person.
It’s an interpretation of this section, because it’s very loose, because the rest of the section is in terms of a person who has a long term mental or physical infirmity, which is Section 5.2A Sub Section 1, but there’s no link between Sub Section 1 and Sub Section 2 – so you can read Sub Section 2 in its entirety as a stand-alone sub section.
So, therefore, if somebody sells their property tomorrow and goes to their doctor and says, ‘I’ve sold my property, I’ve given my keys to them, I’ve got the money in my bank account, I’m never going to live there again.’ – and their doctor is satisfied that that is the case, and that the new owner hasn’t immediately resumed occupation of the property – say a couple of days’ grace, moving stuff out, or builders, or whatever, their GP, if they certify that that person won’t be resuming occupation, that person has complied with Section 5.2A, Sub Section 2, that the property is not going to be a relevant residential property and therefore, they are not liable for the tax.”

Joe Duffy: “But they would say there is subsidiarity in Sub Section 5.2A1?”

Caroline Fanning: “The last word in Sub Section 5.2A1 is ‘or’, which means that either one will apply – so I think that under this interpretation of statute for a penal tax, or something penal is happening to the citizen that you’re able to construe that legislation in favour of the citizen – and I think that in this case, it’s definitely a case to be made.”

Joe Duffy:
“And Caroline, you are a solicitor, I see, it’s very very well spotted. Have you ever beaten Revenue in interpretation?”

Caroline Fanning: “I’ve beaten – I’ve won on certain things in going back..{Joe interrupts}.”

Joe Duffy: “You’re saying, your belief is that if you read this in a particular way – in the way it’s written, that anyone who does sell their house in November or December this year – at the moment they are being hit by the property tax – even though they have no access or use of the house, or ownership of the house, they will be hit for property tax for next year. You’re saying that what you should do is, regardless of your mental or physical state, you go to a GP, and you get a letter from a GP saying, ‘I will not be…{Caroline interrupts}

Caroline Fanning: “…they are satisfied that you will be unlikely at any stage to resume occupation of the property’ – which is the wording in the legislation.”

Joe Duffy:
“And you can send that into Revenue and that exempts you?”

Caroline Fanning:
“Well, there’s definitely a case to be made.”

Joe Duffy: “Revenue will say that this was aimed at people going into a nursing home?”

Caroline Fanning: “But there’s no link between the two, you can read them in their entirety.”

Joe Duffy: “So what you’re saying is 5.2A2 should actually be 5.2A and should be part of 5.2A1 and there shouldn’t be a break?”

Caroline Fanning:
“Well, that would be up to the drafters of the legislation, but there’s definitely an interpretation to be made that could apply to those people that are being hit for property tax for next year.”

Joe Duffy: “But the GP will laugh – if you were to say, ‘Will you exempt me from my property tax?”

Caroline Fanning: “That would be up to the GP, I’m sure some would be sympathetic.”

Joe Duffy: “That’s fascinating, well spotted – and best of luck with it Caroline!”

Caroline Fannning: “Thank you.”


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Earlier this afternoon, Aine Ní Chonaill spoke to Joe Duffy on Liveline.

Ms Ní Chonaill launched the Immigration Control Platform in Ennis, Co. Clare in January, 1998. A few months prior to that, the West Cork teacher stood in the June 1997 general election on an anti-immigration ticket, gaining 293 votes in Cork South-West.

She also ran for Dublin South Central in the 2002 election, above, where she gained 926 votes.

Ms Ní Chonaill featured on show as a follow-up to yesterday’s programme, during which an asylum seeker from Syria, called Ali, talked to Joe about the six years he lived in an accommodation centre in Dublin.

From their conversation:

Áine Ní Chonaill: “Anyone who abuses the asylum system, just as a way to get to the West, and it is massively abused, is an invader of our country.”

Joe Duffy: “An invader?”

Ní Chonaill: “Anyone who barges their way into your country, against your will…”

Duffy: “Now it’s not my, your country. I mean who’s country is it?”

Ní Chonaill: “This is the country of Irish people. Do you think I’m making some exception of myself…”

Duffy: “You don’t own it?”

Ní Chonaill: “I beg your pardon?”

Duffy: “We don’t own the country, when you say ‘your country’.”

Ní Chonaill: “We most certainly do own our country. If you think we don’t own our own country, Joe, you’ve got a very big problem.”

Duffy: “Maybe I have. They’re invaders?”

Ní Chonaill: “Anyone who is an illegal immigrant, ‘i’ ‘double l’, illegal, or I add on an asylum abuser is such a person.”

Duffy: “OK. What is the purpose of this invasion?”

Ní Chonaill: “To get to live in the West.”

Duffy: “Yeah, and do they want to rob anything off you or me or pillage or rape or…”

Ní Chonaill: “Well, excuse me, they want to rob from…”

Duffy: “Because invaders usually come because they want to rob, pillage, rape, overthrow…”

Ní Chonaill: “I beg…If you want to use that kind of language, go right ahead.”

Duffy: “But what do invaders do?”

Ní Chonaill: “Invaders are people who say, effectively, I’m coming into your country whether you like it or not.”

Duffy: “To do what? To do what?”

Ní Chonaill: “To be here.”

Duffy: “In your house?”

Ní Chonaill: “In our country.”

Duffy: “In your house?”

Ní Chonaill: “In our country which is our communal home. Are you trying to say that the country doesn’t have the right to say who comes into the country?”

Duffy: “Of course it does, of course it does.”

Ní Chonaill: “Well that’s all I’m talking about.”

Duffy: “I’m just saying…I’m trying to get a glimpse, cause you’re coming across with phrases like ‘invader’, I’m trying to get a glimpse of what you’re saying, what you actually think of Ali and people like it.”

Ní Chonaill: “Well, obviously, I don’t know any circumstances, what I do know…”

Duffy: “Well, we heard them, we heard them yesterday, directly from his own mouth.”

Ní Chonaill: “No, no, no. Excuse me, Joe. Excuse me Joe. We never on what basis Ali asked for asylum. He came in 2006, when Syria was…”

Duffy: “Because he wanted to get out of Syria.”

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