Tag Archives: The Eighth Amendment


From top: Pro-life campaigners Clare McCarthy, David Quinn, Maria Steen, Niamh Ui Bhriain and John McGuirk in the Davenport Hotel yesterday afternoon.

Further to Facebook banning foreign ads and Google – which owns YouTube – blocking all advertisements connected to the referendum…

Save the 8th spokesperson John McGuirk said: “There have been no items that I can recall on any broadcast channel about actually what’s in the legislation people are being asked to vote on about how it’s abortion up to six months in some circumstances. It has all been Yes side talking points, Yes side sad stories.”

Cora Sherlock of LoveBoth called the decision an “outrageous interference in the democratic process which should be immediately reversed.”

Ms Sherlock drew the distinction between the decision of Facebook – which committed to stopping foreign interference in the referendum – and Google’s action yesterday, which she claims “actually censors Irish citizens”.

John McGuirk: Media coverage of abortion referendum has all been ‘Yes side sad stories’ (Irish Examiner)

Meanwhile…

Last night.

Paraic O’Brien of Channel 4 News in Dublin delivers a comprehensive dispatch on the ads row.

Fight!


This afternoon.

The Davenport Hotel, Dublin 2

An address by Fianna Fail leader Micheál Martin to a Lawyers 4 yes meeting.

There are just over two weeks left before polling in this referendum. By the time it is over this will have been one of the broadest and most detailed referendum debates we have ever held.

In many ways the campaign began in January when it became clear that the Oireachtas would support the proposal adopted by the all-party committee.

I believe that the logic and core humanity of the all-party recommendations have absolutely withstood scrutiny.

These recommendations involve a regulated regime which reflects medical reality and address the clear failure of the present law to provide even basic care and compassion for many women at what is one of the toughest moments of their lives.

Since I made my personal statement in the Dáil I have visited many parts of the country and have talked to hundreds of people about the referendum. For those who have disagreed with me I have met a very open and respectful tone.

However the most common reaction I have had is from women of all ages telling me of their own experiences and how important it is for them that Irish society hears their voice.

All of the evidence is that the public is becoming very well informed on the issues at hand.

It can be very difficult to see through a passionate debate – particularly when faceless groups are appearing and spreading dishonest and offensive material.

However I believe that people are intelligent enough to see through this – and I would encourage everyone to focus on the materials provided by reputable and officially registered groups as well as the Referendum Commission.

I believe that people increasingly understand that abortion is an everyday reality in Ireland. There is no option available to make Ireland abortion-free.

What we are being asked to do is to remove a 35 year-old provision in the constitution which has not only failed to make Ireland abortion-free it has inflicted considerable harm.

There have been many attempts to change the tone and outreach of support services. There have been many court cases and attempts to slightly alter the impact of the amendment.

But what has become clearer and clearer is that 8th amendment hasn’t worked because it cannot work.

In fact it has quite obviously increased the likelihood of difficult circumstances becoming a crisis for pregnant women. At the very core of the 8th amendment is a judgement and a completely inflexible one at that.

The 8th amendment hasn’t made abortion the last resort, in fact it has made abortion the only option for many women.

Faced with a deep crisis the first consultation the woman has is often with the internet, to find flights and addresses rather than with a medical professional here who can outline different options and ensure proper and safe care.

There is persuasive evidence that the liberalisation of abortion laws in some countries has actually led to a decline in abortion rates.

This makes complete sense because reduced pressure and an increased engagement with support services creates choices which are simply not there otherwise. There is no reason why this could not be the case in Ireland as well.

The specific proposals of the all party committee provide for a new approach where we can help women in Ireland faced with terrible situations which simply cannot be addressed while the 8th amendment remains in the constitution.

The law as it stands demands that we try to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term irrespective of the impact on her health, or if she was raped, or if she has received a diagnosis of a fatal foetal abnormality.

And it is essential people understand that there is no possible way for this to change if the amendment remains.

The Supreme Court has held, and left no room for doubt, that a constitutional prohibition must be reflected in the policy of the state, in its primary law and in its criminal code.

There is no discretion and there is no way of thinking that we can address these cases without removing the 8th amendment.

It has also been suggested that the limits and regulation proposed in the legislation can’t be trusted and that effectively there will be no limits. This is entirely wrong.

We should all remember that five years ago many people claimed that abortion on demand was being introduced because limits in that legislation wouldn’t be respected.

Those claims turned out to be false.

Women and their doctors have fully respected the strict limits in that law – and they will respect whatever law is introduced.

I deeply understand how uneasy many people are with the choice to be made on Friday May 25th. For a lot of people, including me, coming to a conclusion has been a long and challenging process.

Each of us has a personal responsibility as a citizen to decide where we stand.

This doesn’t have to be without reservations, but it does have to involve a frank and honest look at the reality of Ireland today and in the future.

A No vote on the 25th will mean that nothing will change. There will continue to be a long stream of cases through our courts taken by women facing extreme situations and identified only by a letter of the alphabet.

There will continue to be thousands of Irish abortions every year with no engagement with medical professionals.

There will continue to be a rising number of unsupervised and unregulated abortions taking place here with the use of abortion pills.

A No vote will mean that Ireland will continue to be a cold place for women in the most terrible circumstances – and we will continue to be confronted by case after case of cruel insensitivity.

A Yes vote will enable a system where the first consultation a woman facing a crisis has is with a medical professional who can support her and outline different choices.

It will enable a system which is regulated, safe and humane.

It will bring to an end the failures of the 8th amendment.

As a citizen I have made my decision. I will be voting Yes and I will continue to talk about the need for the change which can only be secured by voting Yes.

Lawyers For Choice (Facebook)

The Here’s How podcast

Host William Campbell (above left) meets the Iona Institute’s David Quinn (left).

William writes:

With the Repeal the 8th campaign in full swing, it’s time to look back at the claims made by campaigners in previous referendums.

I ask David Quinn of the Iona Institute whether he still stands over the claims he made during the Marriage Equality campaign including this one: “Should the referendum pass, a same-sex couple could demand a right to marry in a church … In Denmark, we have already seen that the Lutheran Church, a State Church admittedly, has been forced to conduct same-sex weddings.”

Listen here.

Here’s How

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fshla-K6XGk

Top obstetricians, including Dr Peter Boylan (top), call for a Yes vote on May 25.

Amy Rose Hart writes: .

The ‘Doctors Together For Yes’ video series aims to highlight the strength of support among Ireland’s medical community for a Yes vote. The first video features some of Ireland’s top obstetricians who state the 8th amendment makes it difficult to know when to intervene to save a woman’s life…

Together4Yes

Steady on.

Pro-lifer Enda Sherlock (brother of TheLiberal.ie editor Leo and Savethe8’s Cora) predicts trouble whatever the result on May 25.

FIGHT!

Catholic Adoption  Agency?

Via Leo Shook TBH

Meanwhile…

There you go now.

From top: Professor Patricia Casey and John McGuirk; Mr McGuirk

“These are deeply personal and private matters for women and their families, and such tactics only serve to cause further distress to people who might be receiving difficult news about their pregnancy.”

John McGuirk, spokesman for Savethe8, discussing graphic pro-life posters  at a press conference in the Alexander Hotel, Dublin 2 this morning. Mr McGuirk  said he believed the group putting up the posters are not Irish.

Save the 8th campaign distances itself from graphic posters outside maternity hospitals (RTÉ)

Meanwhile…

This afternoon

Buswells Hotel, Dublin 2

From left Assistant Professor, University of Texas, Dr Abigail Aiken, Ruth Coppinger TD and Director of Women On Web, Dr Rebecca Gomperts  at a media briefing on the use by Irish women and the safety of medical abortion pills.

DrAiken and and Dr Gompert presented research showing that about five Irish women a day now use ‘telemedicine sites’ for medical abortion services

Rollingnews

Meanwhile…

This morning.

Buswells Hotel, Dubl;in 2

Mandate Trade Union General Secretary, John Douglas (3rd) with Judge Catherine McGuinness (centre) at the May Day launch of Yes Repeal the Eighth Referendum Special newspaper.

Available to read here.

Yesterday: Repeal All About It

Rollingnews

From left:  Josh Brady, Cllr. Éilis Ryan (Dublin City Council) and David Gardiner

Yesterday.

Leinster House, Kildare Street, Dublin 2

Members of the the Workers’ Party launching its posters calling for a ‘YES’ vote in the upcoming referendum on the 8th Amendment,

Cllr Ryan holds a 1983 referendum poster as her party was the only Dáil party to actively campaign against the introduction of the 8th amendment in 1983.

In fairness.

The Workers’ Party (Facebook)

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