Last night.
Singer Sinéad O’Connor was on the Late Late Show last night and, during her appearance, she interviewed host Ryan Tubridy..
At one point she mentioned she saw a video of a woman being thrown on the streets by a guard, during an Irish Water protest.
Sinéad O’Connor: “How do you feel about the 1916 people being discredited lately by the State and do you think it’s because they don’t want us being inspired by 1916 to revolt?”
Ryan Tubridy: “Ok, well what I’d say to you is that I do have a role in this programme as what you’d call a moderator. So, in that sense, I have to kind of balance and even out debate. So, when I’m sitting where you’re sitting, I have to say, ‘OK what do you think? what do you think? what do you think’. Now if I was sat here, even in this interview that we’re doing, I didn’t know anything you were going to ask me, I didn’t know we were going to be talking about 1916 and water but here we are, and I don’t mind that by the way, that’s why we’re here, that’s what we’re doing, we’re just shooting the breeze. But, if I start getting into personal thoughts about these things, suddenly, I couldn’t moderate a debate anymore. So I’ve got to be, I’ve got to leave that stuff for the pub, Sinead..”
O’Connor: “Ok, so I’ve a minute left, the lady is saying to me in the earpiece…”
Tubridy: “…which I love going to and by the way I’ll have it out with you in the pub. I love the pub.”
O’Connor: “Ok, so one final question, I’ve only got a minute and, to me, this is my most important question…”
O’Connor: “…and I’m going to ask Ryan this but I’d really want the audience to think about, and the viewers, ok? It’s my belief that nothing born of the slightest violence can succeed spiritually and, consequently, it can’t succeed financially or any other way. It’s my belief that the first republic of Ireland failed because it was born of spiritual corruption and it’s remained corrupt. To what extent would you all, and would you, consider, supporting the idea of an absolutely non-violent revolution, in the form of peaceful, civil disobedience and the creation of a second republic of Ireland?”
Tubridy: “Oh, a brand new republic? Well, look, I think that the, it’s a conversation worth having.”
O’Connor: “I think, based on the fact that the cops are throwing women around the streets over the water charges? It’s time for a revolution, right?..”
Tubridy: “Well..”
O’Connor: “Non violent, civil disobedience…”
Tubridy: “I think the emphasis should be on non-violence, so you know…”
O’Connor: “Yeah, absolutely, so you can’t throw balloons, you can’t …”
Tubridy: “You can’t rock a car with a woman or man in it..”
O’Connor: “Absolutely not.”
Tubridy: “You can’t throw a woman onto the street. I would say, and I said this to somebody on the radio this week. Because somebody gave out to me for what I was saying. And I said, ‘look, the best people you can look to in the world, iconic people like John Hume and Martin Luther King..”
O’Connor: “Gandhi.”
Tubridy: “Gandhi, they were marked and defined by their dignity.”
O’Connor: “Yeah.”
Tubridy: “And I think that the water charges has been stripped down bait because…”
O’Connor: “Yes, but let’s not be afraid, Ryan, there has to be..”
Tubridy: “…because of the dignity of the people.”
O’Connor: “But we mustn’t be afraid of all the temptations not to revolt. There has to be absolutely non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience. Non-violent means don’t throw the balloons, don’t throw anything at anyone. Sit down on the street and get shot if you have to get shot, silently sit there…”
Tubridy: “But non-violence is the key, yeah.”
O’Connor: “But we have to claim back our country. The spirit of 1916, they built a country out of rubble. We have more than they had at that time. And we don’t need to be violent or create rubble. But we need to get that spirit and resurrect it..”
Tubridy: “But didn’t they need violence to eh…”
O’Connor: “It’s deliberate that our state is trying to discredit the 1916 people.”
Cheers and applause from audience
Tubridy: “OK, but I’ll just say one thing..”
O’Connor: “One second, you can, the very fact is this discrediting of 1916 is being done on purpose so that we won’t revolt. We must understand we can revolt without violence. And study Gandhi. Everybody start watching Gandhi.”
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