Meet Your Maker podcast.

Series 2.

Host Liam Geraghty writes:

This weeks episode throws away the advice that you should never meet your heroes and ends up with a toast from Shane MacGowan, a letter from Harper Lee, an insult from Hunter S. Thompson and a dance pose from Ira Glass.

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Former Garda Commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan

The Disclosures Tribunal will continue this morning  at Dublin Castle, overseen by Supreme Court Judge Peter Charleton.

Again, the former Garda Commissioner Noirin O’Sullivan’s evidence to date – in particular that she had little or no specific knowledge of the details of what was unfolding at the commission in May 2015 – will come into sharp focus.

Readers will recall how the tribunal is currently hearing evidence pertaining to the 2015 O’Higgins Commission of Investigation which looked at allegations made by Sgt Maurice McCabe of poor policing in the Cavan/Monaghan area.

Specifically, under the current term of reference, Judge Charleton is attempting to decipher whether of not the former Garda Commissioner Noirin O’Sullivan inappropriately used unjustified grounds to discredit Sgt McCabe at that commission.

To that end, it is essentially trying to tease out what actions, by whom, were taken/not taken throughout that commission and, also, to find out who knew what, when.

Today, the tribunal will hear from Assistant Secretary at the Department of Justice Ken O’Leary, among others.

The tribunal has already heard that Mr O’Leary shared several phone calls with Ms O’Sullivan on the day the legal row broke out on May 15, 2015.

One took place in or around the time Ms O’Sullivan was being asked to reconfirm her instructions.

Ms O’Sullivan has already told the tribunal she can’t really recall what they discussed during a call at 4.16pm which lasted for 3 minutes and 35 seconds.

However, she did concede:

“…when I spoke to Assistant Secretary O’Leary my decision and my instructions had already been re-confirmed and I was just satisfying myself was there something going on in the background that I should be aware of.

She also said:

“Chairman, the only — the only thing that I can offer is that, again, my decision and the instructs have been given earlier that day, the only thing I would have been aware of at the 16:16 phone call was the fact that the document — sorry, it was later, actually, it was at, I would say, 7:00 that the document was going to be worked up over the weekend and that that was a piece of work that was ongoing by the legal team.

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