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The Dublin Inquirer reports:

Back in November 2012, Threshold estimated that landlords were keeping deposits worth up to €2million.

Today, it estimates that the amount of tenant-deposit money being held by landlords could be €700million, a spokesperson says.

“Which is an extraordinary sum largely belonging to people of modest or moderate incomes.”

There’s still a need, they said, for a deposit scheme to make sure tenants who have done nothing wrong get their deposits back.

Still waiting for a better system for getting deposits back from landlords (Sean Finnan, The Dublin Inquirer)

Sean Finnan


Are you a tenant or a landlord?

Ciaran O’Driscoll writes:

Could you do a fierce short survey about your experiences for a friend’s college project?

With the current renting and housing situation in Ireland at the moment, I know many of you, like me, will have a lot to say about it.

The survey only takes a few minutes, and my friend and her project group would be delighted to get as many responses as possible.

Survey here



In The Irish Times.

Colin Gleeson writes about the rental sector and residential landlords.

He writes:

Pat (66) has been a residential landlord all his life, but he’d prefer if his full name wasn’t published by The Irish Times. “Do you know the opprobrium I would get if I was identified?” he asks. “The hate mail I would get?”

After falling into the sector “by accident”, Pat at one stage had about 80 tenants on his books in 20 properties around Dublin 6 and Dublin 1. “I wouldn’t house one now,” he says. “Not one.”

This, he argues, is due to “appalling treatment” by the Government, and what he calls the “Tesco-isation” of the sector.

“What I mean by that is, the small guy who was providing accommodation was put out of business while the bigger players came in.

“These big American companies are coming in and they have no problem with compliance and all the registration and so forth. It’s easy for them because they have the scale, but, for the small guy, it’s murderous.

“Pretty soon, the only people letting properties will be the big huge companies. When tenants have a problem, they’ll ring up a number to say the toilet’s blocked, and they’ll get an answering machine somewhere in the United States.”

…The story of the housing and rental crisis has largely been told through the prism of the house buyer and the tenant, but Pat can barely contain his anger at what he perceives to be a stacked deck, and vitriol towards landlords among the public.

‘Tesco-isation’ of home rental sector driving landlords out (Colin Gleeson, The Irish Times)

Mark Stedman/Rollingnews


There you go.

Previously: A Drafting Error?



Minister for Housing Simon Coveney

Minister for Housing Simon Coveney spoke in the Seanad this afternoon – in relation to the Planning and Development (Housing) and Residential Tenancies Bill.

He also raised the occupation of Apollo House.

He said:

“Just on Apollo House, I know it’s a slight diversion and I hope the chair will allow me to just give two minutes on this issue.”

The only outcome I want here is to ensure that people who are homeless, who slept in Apollo House last night and the night before, that we can manage an orderly transition into a solution for those people, for their immediate challenges in terms of what they’re facing because they are homeless.

“Many people who are homeless have chaotic lives, in terms of challenges in mental health, of family breakdown, of addiction, and so many others. And, normally, a combination of a whole series of them at the same time. And, on top of that, they have the anxiety and worry and stress, sometimes physical demands of actually trying to live night by night, not knowing where they’re going to be tomorrow.”

“So, my understanding is that there were over 30 people in Apollo House last night. What we want to do is work with the people in Apollo House who have raised the profile in terms of homelessness in terms of a national debate this week. And ensure that the people who need help the most here, who are currently resident in Apollo House can make the transition from there to suitable accommodation with professionals who will know a lot more than I’ll ever know about homelessness. Looking after them, whether that’s the Peter McVerry Trust, whether it’s Vincent de Paul, whether it’s the Simon Community, whether it’s Focus Ireland, whoever it is, right?”

“And we need to make sure that that transition doesn’t add to the already stressful and uncertain situation that many of those people face. And I would ask people in Apollo House to work with us on that. I think there are a lot of good people involved in that campaign who want to see the right outcome here, as well as want to continue a campaign to put me under pressure to deliver faster – and that’s fine, too. That’s politics.

“And it is my job to lead the political response that’s needed to solving homelessness. And I am going to do that.”

“We have started that process. Even the most critical people, of Government policy and homelessness would accept that we have the most comprehensive homeless strategy that we’ve ever had in Ireland now. It’s all about implementing it and getting results for people. And that is why, in the last six weeks, we have used emergency powers, to basically put leases in places for three new hostels in Dublin.

We have had construction teams 24 hours a day, in some cases, kitting out those facilities. I’ve sanctioned over €5million for those three projects. And if we need another one, then we’ll get another one.

“But we’ll do it, in a way, that ensures the safety of homeless people that are going to be accommodated there, learning lessons from other hostels that haven’t worked as well as they might have over the need for better design and so on.”

“So, you know, the three new hostels, one is in Little Britain Street – there’s 45 beds open there now. There’s 75 in Ellis Quay, which is being run by the Peter McVerry Trust; sorry, Little Britain Street is being run by the DePaul Trust, they have 70 beds open. And there’ll probably be a few more added to that.

“And then Camden Hall, which is a more controversial one, on Francis Street, because there was an injunction preventing us from opening that facility last week, from local residents. And we had to go to court to open it. And that will be open by Friday. There’ll be 25 beds initially of 51 beds that will be place in the, you know, not too distant future and we’re talking days rather than weeks, run by the Simon Community.”

“There’s another 20 beds then that are going to be provided on Wolfe Tone Quay, by Civil Defence if there’s  a need for overflow or extra spaces. And so, when all of those facilities are fully up and running, we’ll be talking about adding about 240 beds to the system.

“When I was asked for more beds in advance of winter, by the NGOs working in the sector, I was asked to provide an extra 120/125 beds to the system. We’re going to be adding 240 beds to the system. And it’s just as well we are actually. Because we’re gonna need the vast majority of them.

Last night there were 15 beds unoccupied in our shelters and we had more than 30 people in Apollo House and I’m sure there were some people on the streets last night. So we need these extra beds. And I’m not going to get into judgement on people in Apollo House, in terms of the campaign here. What I’m interested in is resolving this issue before Christmas if we can do that, and helping people who need the State’s help – to make the transition into hostel facilities that they can trust and believe in, in terms of their own security and in terms of, more importantly, getting them onto a program that can help them transition from temporary, emergency accommodation into a home of their own in terms of a social housing solution, in time.”

And actually, just, for the record, there has been a record number of people that have made that transition this year. There’ll be over 2,700 families and individuals that will have gone from homelessness into permanent accommodation and we need to do more of that next year and we’re going to. And we have the resources to do it.”

“Finally, on the resources, this year the allocation for my department for homelessness services was €70million, next year, it’s €100million. And there’s a lot more money, on top of that, coming from the department of health, about €36million next year. And, of course, there are multiples of that in terms of social housing. In terms of acquisitions.

“I think I mentioned earlier, we spent €203million this year, acquiring over 1,000 properties across the local authorities across the country, again trying to get social housing numbers up.”

So, there is a really strong commitment in this area to get on top of it. Not because of the politics of it or anything but because, if a state can’t house people, that are so vulnerable that they literally have nowhere to go, well then I think we have to ask ourselves serious questions. And it’s my responsibility to make sure that we answer those questions. But you can’t do it overnight. And we’re ramping up services quickly.”

“I think, again, most of the NGOs that I’ve spoken to and yesterday I met the CEOs of four key ones, they would all accept that by the end of this week, we should have enough beds to deal with everybody who wants a bed. And we need to start working with people who are refusing beds, who are on the streets at the moment, to try and get them into shelter as well.”

Watch the debate live here



Rent controls?


What then?

It is common practice for rental adverts to say that rent supplement is not accepted, but the Coalition is seeking to prohibit that practice.It is expected that the measure will be enacted with an amendment of equality legislation shortly.

Well, it’s a start.

Over to you so-called landlords.

Government moves to prohibit refusal of rent supplement (Daft)


Environment Minister Alan Kelly

….Mr [Alan Kelly] Kelly is being guided by a report commissioned by his predecessor Jan O’Sullivan, which presented a series of proposals to reform the rental market.

The report – by DKM Economic Consultants – warned against the introduction of full-scale rent controls as it could lead to tens of thousands of rented properties leaving the system.

However, it recommends the introduction of special rent certainty leases, which could have a set term of at least five years.

The report suggests a series of incentives for landlords who enter agreement with tenants, including capital gains tax relief once their property is sold.

Now landlords to get tax relief to keep rents down (Niall O’Connor, Independent.ie)

(Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland)


Oh it’s fupping on.

Or is it?

Darragh Doyle  writes:

“Almost in direct contradiction to what “they” said here and here. Customer service rep giving out wrong information?”



Legal Coffee Drinker writes:

“I believe I mentioned in my earlier post (‘No contract No Consent’?), under Section 21 of the Water Services (No. 2) Act 2013 (read in conjunction with the definition of ‘customer’ in Section 2 of the same Act) liability for water charges rests on the ‘occupier’ of the premises in respect of which the charges have been levied.

“Where the owner of premises has let premises under a tenancy, he is no longer the ‘occupier’ of that premises for the duration of that tenancy. This is because the essence of a tenancy is that the tenant has exclusive occupation of the premises for the duration of the tenancy, with the landlord no longer having the right to occupy it – or even enter it without the permission of the tenant – during that period.”

In the circumstances, there is no possibility that a landlord could be deemed an ‘occupier’ of premises for the purposes of liability for water charges in respect of any period while a tenancy of that premises is ongoing.

What may have caused confusion is that Section 21(5) provides that the ‘owner’ of premises is deemed to be the occupier of the premises until they prove otherwise. All a landlord has to do is produce a tenancy agreement to remove any contention that they are liabie for water charges for the duration of that agreement, placing this liability for such charges exclusively on the tenant.”